I am a die hard Stinger fan, the fly like a field tip and leave a blood trail like none I have ever seen and it's hard to beat a lifetime warranty.

Are the 125s phantoms sturdy?  I know folks like the big phantoms ss, but I'm only shooting 125-still strong?

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I'm trying to decide between these, stingers and razorsharks for a 4blade.

Traditional only if you read the package they tell you be careful very sharp! If iI remember slide towards point and tilt ??

oh, ok, im prolly gonna get some this year...

Never used phantoms but I do know stingers fly like field points, come sharp out of the pkg and seem to hold an edge well, aren't very hard to sharpen and have a lifetime guarantee.

But--

I don't think you could argue with Fred Eichlers results either.

a friend of mine uses the phantoms and i bought some stingers on the way to the lease 3 days ago, i shot threw both legs and the heart on a 100-125 lb sow with a 125 grain stinger and it still spins true. the diamond tip is awesome. althrought i didn't get the blood that i thought i would get from a heart shot but then again she was dead in under 30 yards. if i had to due it again i would probably buy the phantoms just because i am so curious. i think they would both be great.

a close friend went to Africa two years ago. A week before the trip he broke his wrist and it was doubtful he could even shoot, let alone sharpen broadheads but heck, everything was paid for already...so he bought 18 Phantom 125's..put brass inserts in his shafts, mounted them (very sharp out of the pack he said) and headed out.

Long story short- 7 animals- 7 shots- all recovered- including two kudu bulls and a wildebeest so I guess you could say he was pretty happy with the results...one of the kudu was spot and stalk, shot as it galloped off at 25 yards through the heart, quartering away!

Both are excellent heads IMO.  The Phantom cuts a bit more, I feel the Stinger is a little stronger and a made to better tolerances, win-win though, can't go wrong with either!

As far as screw in heads are concerned, I rate the Phantom second only to the Silver flame. I have shot them two bladed and with the bleeders for years. They hold up great and resharpen with most carbide quick sharpeners real easy. My experience is with the 125gr only. I have not tried the new ones by Muzzy. I took six dozen over to Africa for a big bow hunter over there. He swore by them and said they used them on everything and nothing better he stated. That's when I started using them! They are a little light for most of my setups these days so I am using the STOS most of the time and the Silver Flames for big stuff.

Stingers...cuz that's what I have!  :D  

They are super tough, (re)sharpen easy and fly great.

just ordered 2 boxes of phantoms, I like the big bleeder. Nothing against stingers though I have some of them buzzcuts.

Jason