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HH bug got me ... Part One!

Started by longbowben, January 07, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

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Ben Maher

Roy, it looks okay I suppose ... i know that when mine gets here in a few weeks it will look better though...because it'll be left handed!

Only kiddin'... they look fantastic. I can't wait for mine . For a kid who went to sleep every nite with Images of Errol Flynn loosing Grey goose justice running through his head , and daydreamed of Sherwood adventures it'll be just the ticket methinks.
Thanks for posting the pics Mudd.
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magnus

Mudd that's a beauty. I think I like the Royal better though. Then again what do I know.

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Mudd

There will be more pictures posted once I get it here to "Sherwood" in L.A., MO...lol

God bless,Mudd
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Steve Clandinin

Mudd,That is one nice looking bow !This will definately go with your green outfit!LOL, Roy what are the stats on your new bow?
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leatherneck

Nice bow Mudd! You guys have gotten me in big trouble. I have a HH coming and a Mohawk coming to test drive. I sure hope I don't like them both!
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Rob DiStefano

QuoteOriginally posted by leatherneck:
Nice bow Mudd! You guys have gotten me in big trouble. I have a HH coming and a Mohawk coming to test drive. I sure hope I don't like them both!
two very different longbows - don't compare them, love them each for what they are, as the superb individuals they be.  

GET THEM BOTH!  

read that again!     :readit:        :campfire:
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Mudd

QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by leatherneck:
Nice bow Mudd! You guys have gotten me in big trouble. I have a HH coming and a Mohawk coming to test drive. I sure hope I don't like them both!
two very different longbows - don't compare them, love them each for what they are, as the superb individuals they be.  

GET THEM BOTH!  

read that again!      :readit:          :campfire:  [/b]
Thanks for the kind words. Now pay heed to what Rob says....lol He's right on the money with his assessment.

God bless,Mudd
Trying to make a difference
Psalm 37:4
Roy L "Mudd" Williams
TGMM- Family Of The Bow
Archery isn't something I do, it's who I am!
The road to "Sherwood" makes for an awesome journey.

Wannabe1

Rob/Roy are both correctomundo! I had a 68" Mohawk that I got on a trade from Papa Bear(Larry) and I regret to this day ever letting that thing slip from my hands. It was one smooth shooting longbow!   :thumbsup:
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Rooselk

I really love the pics of the HH bows you guys have been posting. But I especially appreciate finally seeing a pic of a Hill bow with a myrtle riser. I'm going to be ordering a Hill bow soon and have considered having it made with woods native to the Pacific Northwest where I live. I thought of myrtle for the riser but wasn't sure how it would look with yew limbs.
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RC

Ya`ll did it!!!I`m working out a trade for one now.I`ll have a "Hawk" and "Hill" in the house...Life is good.Thank You Lord.RC

longbowben

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SpankyNeal

Wow, now there's a big surprise RC...like we didn't know that was gonna happen!   :goldtooth:  
Hope it's a good one for ya!

Spanky
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4 Sunset Hills and counting!

66" 59# "White Dragon"
65" 56# "El Tigre"
67" 47# "Quiet Places"
66" 57# "Lionheart"

"Speed is vital, however it is absolutely worthless when you exchange it for stability and accuracy"...John Schulz

leatherneck

QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by leatherneck:
Nice bow Mudd! You guys have gotten me in big trouble. I have a HH coming and a Mohawk coming to test drive. I sure hope I don't like them both!
two very different longbows - don't compare them, love them each for what they are, as the superb individuals they be.  

GET THEM BOTH!  

read that again!       :readit:            :campfire:   [/b]
No,No. Our chat Rob didn't fall on deaf ears. I understand they are completely different. I wanted to try them both and Vince was more than willing to ship me one out. I'm gonna have a fun week next week. Maybe an expensive one to boot.
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tradlongbow

I agree, everyone that like longbows should have a hill and a mohawk. Darren
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David Mitchell

OK, I just gotta ask this question--I own five Hill bows--four made by Craig and one by John Schulz.  The Schulz made bow is right on the weight marked, the other four are all 4# heavier than marked weight on my scale and others I have checked them on.  All my other bows (about 14) all weigh essentially as marked on my scale.  A buddy got a new Hill 3 weeks ago and it was the same way when he checked it on his scale--right about 4# heavier than marked.  What gives?  Anyone else found this to be the case?  It has not created a problem for me but could for some people if they are ordering right at their max shooting weight.  I love all my Hills and would order again (and am sorely tempted because of this thread    :D   but I would seriously consider ordering 4# lighter than what I was shooting for I think.
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Rob DiStefano

it's all a question about the scales used and how carefully you take a weight reading on yer bow.

i use an easton digital scale.  it's extremely accurate.  is use the "clothes pin on the shaft" to check the draw length weight. the shaft is a 32" 5/16" woodie, marked at 26" to 31" in 1/2" increments, from the depth of the nock's throat.

when the clothes pin hits the riser i let down. the scaled weight is retained on the easton scale.  i do this three times, just to make sure.

imo, analog spring scales just aren't as accurate as digital scales.  ymmv.
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David Mitchell

I realize that Rob, but my spring scale says my other bows are on target weight...my Hills are 4# above.  Why just the Hills?
The years accumulate on old friendships like tree rings, during which time a kind of unspoken care and loyalty accrue between men.

Rob DiStefano

QuoteOriginally posted by David Mitchell:
I realize that Rob, but my spring scale says my other bows are on target weight...my Hills are 4# above.  Why just the Hills?
what i said - spring scales just aren't as accurate as digital scales.  easy to calibrate digital ... not gonna happen with analog.  if three bowyers each had analog spring scales, they might get three different readings on the same bow.  it happens far more than we think.  then there's the marketing fudge factor - the bow is marked 55# and shoots a fast arrow, but on a digital scale it reads 59# .... hmmmmmmmmm.
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SpankyNeal

I agree with Rob...it's probably just the difference between Craigs scale and others. However I will interject one more thought pertaining to bows in general. When bows are made from natural materials, and built to a formula, weight differences will occur due to variations in the material. Sometimes the weight can be brought in line while maintaining proper tiller, and sometimes not. That's why one bow can have 10lbs shaved off after it's built and the next can only have 2-3. At least that's how I see it.

Spanky
Ken "Spanky" Neal

4 Sunset Hills and counting!

66" 59# "White Dragon"
65" 56# "El Tigre"
67" 47# "Quiet Places"
66" 57# "Lionheart"

"Speed is vital, however it is absolutely worthless when you exchange it for stability and accuracy"...John Schulz

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