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HH bug got me ... Part One!

Started by longbowben, January 07, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

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Rob DiStefano

true, spanky, but if i ask for a 60# @ 29" bow, i better not get one tillered at 64# or 56#.  a good bowyer will be able to get within 2# of the target draw length weight, most at less than a pound.  more bowyers are starting to use really good digital scales like the easton (not cheap at around $140).  like i said, there is a bunch of fudging going on with draw/holding weights recorded on too many stick bows.
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Ben Maher

Dave,
that is my experience with Craig's bow too .
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Orion

My experience as well, Dave.  Have owned several Hills over the years.  Most have been 2-3# heavy.  One was right on.  This is on a spring scale on which almost all my other bows, (more than 50 over the years) have come out at weight. Of course, some of those were off a tad, too.

leatherneck

I'm in BIG trouble guys. I just got a Halfbreed in the mail for a test drive. Now mind you Jason sent this bow out on Thur. and I got it already. Thats fast. Anyhow, it's time to pick out some woods.    :bigsmyl:    
Thanks for everyones help.
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Wannabe1

Ooooh Yaaaah! You done gone and got bit! We'll be looking forward to pics of the new addition soon!
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Ben Maher

Anyhow, it's time to pick out some woods

Well... I'd suggest yew , or perhaps maybe yew or if you are feeling adventurous what about yew ?

Seriously , then caramalised 'boo looks crazy good as does juniper, yew or Elm over bamboo cores . If you straight woods and no 'boo I'd recommend wither yew or elm .

Myself, I'm partial to yew ...   :goldtooth:
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Rob DiStefano

i'm partial to nothing but 'boo.  maybe the caramalized flavor, too - gotta see how my b5 turns out.    :wavey:
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Wannabe1

I gotta brag on my "Owl" because she shoots very nice. Osage is by far my favorite bow wood. Don't know why I just didn't go for the Crocodile when I ordered it.   :p
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Rob DiStefano

for woods, it's gotta be osage or yew for me, in that order.  

but man, the smoooothness of grass limbs is *SO* good!!!   :thumbsup:  

unless the cane or 'boo is stained, it's pretty plain jane looking.  but heat tempering ("caramelizing") really takes the grass coloring to a whole new level.  

i know that first hand from flaming raw bamboo tubes.  it can go from near very light tan or just cut green, to amber or orange or dark chocolate, and at the same time the properties are changed into a completely different substance that's incredibly durable and *stiff*.
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Benny Nganabbarru

My favourite is yew (my second, better-fitting, Redman is in the works), followed by normal yellow bamboo, and someday perhaps an osage Crocodile will make its way here. Another fellow in town just got a Crocodile, so I am looking forward to seeing that. My preference is for clear glass, and for some reason, I prefer my Hills to be the ones made out of all the same timber in the limbs, rather than mixtures.
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Ben Maher

Ben said
I prefer my Hills to be the ones made out of all the same timber in the limbs, rather than mixtures.

Great minds think alike ! Me too!
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David Mitchell

OK, Ben amd Orion, didn't think I would be only one who experienced this little discrepancy.
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Mudd

I too am partial to yew!

I can say it hasn't always been that way though.

There was a time when it was all "grass" but in my opinion yew is.... well it's yew!

God bless,Mudd   :archer:
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Benny Nganabbarru

My mate Tony, who now owns my previous Redman, weighed that bow and found it to be spot-on. He also weighed other bows to make sure of the readings. They all seemed good.
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Rob DiStefano

it would be great if there was an easy way to standardize weight scale calibration.  until then, YMMV!   ;)
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Rooselk

Yew for me as well. I already have a Blacktail recurve and a Blacktail longbow with yew limbs and I see no reason to be switching woods when I order my Hill.

That said, I'm finding it a little troubling to read here that if I order a 54# @ 27" Hill bow I might actually receive a 58# @ 27" bow. Sorry, but that just won't cut it.
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Ben Maher

Rooselk,
it is my experience that the bows will come in at weight or heavier , never lighter. I have had many Hills that came in bang on as requested poundage wise.
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J.R.R TOLKIEN

leatherneck

So far this is what I want. 66" 54@27 Wesley Special.
Limbs- I'm leaning toward caramelized boo limbs(I too prefer the amber color).
Riser-locator grip with ??? Not sure of the handle wood. What do you all think Texas Ebony will look like with the amber limbs? Suggestions ?
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SpankyNeal

Hey Mike, if ya go caramelized then anything with brown, black or red would be my choice (Cocobolo, TX Ebony, Ebony, Macassar, Bocote, etc.) If ya go with the amber then Osage...yeah baby!!   :thumbsup:  

Spanky
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4 Sunset Hills and counting!

66" 59# "White Dragon"
65" 56# "El Tigre"
67" 47# "Quiet Places"
66" 57# "Lionheart"

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Rob DiStefano

the big 5 i just ordered has caramelized 'boo under clear glass and paduak riser and tip overlays, laced black grip.

paduak
 
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