HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

[Sam McMichael]

Thanks, Pavan, I'll give it a try tomorrow.

[Overspined]

I need to get some woodies ordered soon, just not entirely sure what to get.  I'll be bugging you about that soon Pavan

The weather has really been lovely lately and I have been practicing nearly everyday.  Little by little, (and I mean little) I am getting more consistent.

Buy a couple close aluminum sizes and tune, then convert to wood spines. I was taught this and have done it for years.

[Overspined]

On a hill bow I seem to never go wrong with a brace around 7". I'll go down to 6 3/4 and up to 7 1/2 but usually 6 3/4.  Arrows get erratic under 6.5" brace for me with zero gain and I don't want too much so I use 6.75". Lets be honest as low or high as you'd go your gain or loss in performance is basically nothing. So if my string stretches (it better not) I'll still be over 6.5" where it all works out. Reverse handle I'll go higher maybe 7.5

[pavan]

I have found that an extra high brace height may affect some bows more than others.  My Schulz bows definitely had less cast with a string that gave an extra high brace.  The sectional stiffness of carbon arrows can require a higher brace, they don't bend as much as wood going around the riser, where a wood arrow actually has part of the arrow bending into the bow on the belly side and bending around the to the back side.   Watch the Hill videos in slow/stop motion to see this in action.

[NotDylan]

It was a lovely day.
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[NotDylan]

I'm 5'10 and have a 70" wingspan.  I had my wife measure my draw length (marked arrows with a sharpie flush with the riser while I held at anchor) and ended up with 24-24.5 from the mark to the valley of the nock.  If that's my draw length then so be it but I sure would like to get a little more out of it for the sake of performance. 

Here are two videos of me shooting today, feel free to critique them in every way possible, I need it!  Does it look like I am leaving some draw length on the table?  Does anything else standout to you?  My swing draw definitely needs some work.

For what it's worth, the 4 arrows in the first video were very inconsistent, the 4 in the second video were pretty good by my standards, a 4-5 inch group at 15 yards.  Any idea why?

https://youtu.be/ImPkJW7UO9c
https://youtu.be/0htFiu9-COU

[pavan]

pm sent https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjzjAixs9cc

[evgb127]

Let's get some more pictures on here. I shot some 3D this morning with my Jet Leopard. 






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[GregD]

Evan, what is the limb core in that one? Did Joel stop making bows?

[evgb127]

Greg - My leopard has a yew core.  Based on my last conversation with Joel a few months ago, he has not given up the idea of building bows on a limited basis but he currently does not have a shop up and running.  He does have a few bows in stock though.  IMHO his bows are some of the best ASL's out there.


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[David Mitchell]

Well, what I am seeing in the first video particularly is that at the moment of release (at the 18 second mark on shot 1) your elbow is pointing at ME.  You would have a good bit more draw length if you rotate the elbow back more and get your drawing arm more in line with the arrow.  I recently worked on that myself with the aid of a friend and added 2 1/2 inches of draw length.  I had been anchoring on a canine tooth and now draw until my index finger is in the joint of my jaw.  It is a much better anchor and I am using my back muscles more at draw and anchor. 

[Overspined]

Been out stumpin with the kid...

[flint kemper]

My new Osage Royale from Chuck Jones. 66" 45@28" and 3/4" of backset. Great grain in the Osage in the limbs and riser. Perfect string alignment, perfect string grooves,perfectly straight limb grinds, overlay feathering. It has it all.


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[ron w]

Really nice, I just love Osage.......

[limbshaker]

Man, I really like that! 

[ny state land]

I just did some horse trading for a Big 5 50@28 66". any way to tell the age? Its going straight to HH to get refinished and new grip. On a side note what are your thoughts on the HH deluxe glove? I heard there was a way to form them to your hand so they wouldn't move much?

[ny state land]

I believe out says BC662920?

[David Mitchell]

Craig can tell you when it was made by the serial number.

[pavan]

NY, ask for an extra length Hill glove, then when you get it, do not be afraid to cut the first two or three top stitches open at the tips.

[Overspined]

I used a shooting glove for a very long time. Like 26 years. When I started testing bows, I started using a tab for convenience.  I realized I liked using a tab, and I can wear gloves with a tab and it doesn't affect anything.  In fact my anchor is more solid and has a more natural feel. My hands freeze when I hunt so this change to tabs has been a real help to me, i can use hand warmers and gloves and it really  works keeping the shooting fingers warmer. I have a drawer full of gloves I rarely use, I wouldn't screw around with gloves ever again. Seems like they always had something I had to tweak or alter to fit. My favorite was a big shot or the big shot with the nylon inserts, seemed comfy as far as gloves go.  But man my fingers froze.