HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

[evgb127]

I hope Ol' Jake gives you many years of success.  I lost a close friend to suicide on St. Patrick's Day two years ago.  As Fred Bear once said, "Nothing clears a troubled mind better than shooting a bow."


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[Ray Lyon]

Got a nice surprise in the mail today.
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I enjoy making wood arrows and have done so since the early 70's, but Paul Jalon of Elite Arrows (sponsors Tradgang) makes as fine of an arrow as I've ever used. These spin like aluminum and the tolerances are better than I can shoot.  Hill style bows and Autumn Legends-they're an incredible combination. 
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Here's a nice doe taken with my Northern Mist Shelton and my previous batch. This dozen came in within 1# and 10 grains of the last dozen from a couple of years ago. 

[Ray Lyon]

Paul makes the Autumn Legends for Ron LaClair's shop. Here's the kind of tolerance Paul uses:
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[evgb127]

Those are some great looking woodies Ray. I've had some back luck with the quality of wood shafts in the past that made me stick with carbon but I may have to revisit the issue. 


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[Ray Lyon]

If I make my own wood arrows I use Surewood Douglas Fir or Wapiti cedar.  I've had great success with both of those shaft suppliers.  I'm not sure where Paul gets his shafts from but I've seen sitka spruce and his cedar now and they're both great.

[pavan]

The next time, hopefully this coming fall, I shoot a pheasant with a longbow, I need to remember to do this.

[Ray Lyon]

👍👍

[Ray Lyon]

👍👍looks good. 

[pavan]

I just learned something tonight.  I have read on forums many times that one should shoot a longbow and a recurve just the same.  Wanna bet on that one?  I should know better than to take out a recurve for the first shooting after a two month layofff.  Couldn't draw the recurve without lifting the arrow off the shelf and had to intentionally force it down.  A quick change to my JD Berry Morningstar fixed the problem completely and I had no trouble packing arrows like normal.  Time to unload the recurve for the year. 

[ron w]

I have never had any issues going back and forth from recurve to longbow.......

[pavan]

Ah, so Ron you are saying that you can shoot your longbow like you shoot your recurve.  I am a true believer in the teaching of John Schulz, I am stating that I cannot shoot my recurve just like I shoot my longbows.  I know my longbow form is correct for my longbows.  I was rather surprised with my results, my first target work since my wife broke her arm.  I cannot shoot a recurve with the bent bow arm and the low wrist comes naturally to me, taking the pressure off  of the heel and wedging up with the bow hand is a freaky feeling thing for me, stiff and clumsy.  I tried to give that recurve away, but the dirty bugger first bought a slightly lighter recurve and sold that and then bought a Hill longbow.  Back on the bow rack.

[GregD]

Ray, are those weights with the field tips or just bare shafts? If the field tips are included what weight are you using? Thanks, Greg

[Ray Lyon]

Greg, those weights are with 125 grain points that Paul installs.  I'll swap out with my 185 grain grizzly heads and 190 grain field points, so net gain of about 60 grains.  I like the label that Paul uses.  My last batch of Autumn Legends has 60-62# and 509-515 on them.  I save the labels for my arrows and the strings that I get from Ten Ring Strings which also lists all the specs. 

[GregD]

Ray, my arrows from Paul all end up heavier than I expect. I just checked a box marked 480 but when I switch out the 125 for a 160 they are all 615-630. That's why I was wondering if the posted weight included the 125 they come with. I am going to call him any way to try and get something finished closer to 530 to shoot out of my 53# bows. Thanks

[Ray Lyon]

I have another set of Paul's arrows that are 55# spine that are 29" BOP and weigh 570 with 125 grain points.

[pavan]

My choice for my spring turkey bow is which one that I can shoot and hit a turkey size target the most often at 30 yards with my 4 by 4" 1918s with the Herters four blade heads.  The winner is my left hand Berry Morningstar.

[NotDylan]

I need to get some woodies ordered soon, just not entirely sure what to get.  I'll be bugging you about that soon Pavan

The weather has really been lovely lately and I have been practicing nearly everyday.  Little by little, (and I mean little) I am getting more consistent. 

[pavan]

Just PM me your exact specs and for which bow and I will make my best guess.

[Sam McMichael]

I'm tinkering with a new string and realize I have forgotten the recommended beginning brace height for my bow. It's a HHA Wesley Special. My bow is quiet but it sure seems to be high. Thanks for the help - a feeble minded old guy appreciates the help.

[pavan]

6&1/8" to 6.5"  If it is a 70" maybe an 1/8" more, if it is a reverse 1" more.