wooden arrow lament...wahhh ;-(

[homerdave]

well darn it all, after building 1/2 dozen arrows to hunt black bear with they just won't fly for me.
stained them w/ blueberry juice, crested by hand and when i shoot them 4 or 5 will fly sorta okay, then 1 or 2 will just careen wildly and barely hit the block at 18 yds.
it's not the same  ones flying wild, either, 'cause i marked them all.    
these are 11/32  65-70 spine sitka shafts cut to 28.5", started with 165 gr stos and then went to  125 gr ww.
shooting them out of a #52 RER.
grabbed a few 2016's and got the fletchings to touch at 22 yds, so it isn't just me...guess i'll hunt with the aluminum...  :rolleyes:

[Mike Gerardi]

Been there Brother.  Out of all the shafting I have bought over the years, only once did I get 12 great flyin arrows out of a single dozen .... POC.
 Try looking at your nocks to see if they are  straight..  How do they spin..?

[woodchucker]

What kind of fletching jig/clamp are you using?????

[Izzy]

I feel your pain.I lost my best in a swamp yesterday.I looked for 15 minutes.Out of the 6 that I crested and fletched this was the "1" that was alway right on.

[Brad_Gentry]

Those woodies might be underspined... I know I shoot 2216's out of my schafer, and they spine out at 84#.

[SlowBowinMO]

Woodies are certainly harder to get as consistent as something like aluminum, but as Brad pointed out you've got about a 15 pound spine difference you're working with.

[aromakr]

dave:
You did not give your bow spec's, however I have to agree its probably spine, the 2216's are over 80#@28 1/2". I would guess the bow is cut past center, try putting something about 1/8" thick under your strike plate and try those same arrows again. What is a RER?
Bob

[insttech1]

Wow...2216 are incredibly high spine for that bow....but if they shoot well, AND bareshaft tune well, then I guess that's what the bow likes....

I tried them out of a 59lb Morrison, 30" long, and they were a tad stiff for that bow, at that length...with 145gr points...

I would build your sideplate out in 1/32" increments and try those woodies again...probably with the lighter heads...

Take Care,
Marc

[Pat B]

Try shooting them with the cock feather against the bow and see how they fly.   Pat

[bowdude]

Try builing a nice campfire with them and enjoy some Goldtip carbons next time.

[homerdave]

DOUBLE OOPS    
the arrows i am shooting are 2016's   :rolleyes:  
think i'll try them out of my wifes #45 bear.
RER=river's edge recurve...

oh yeah,  5" shield  RW

[SlowBowinMO]

Oh wow, huge difference!  Now you can have all sorts of new gremlins to chase.

[SpikeMaster]

According to Kelly's spine charts, 2016's spine out at about 61#. If the 2016's are flying good the wood arrows might be overspined.

[Molson]

Sounds like several issues at once. The spine on the woods are quite a bit higher.  The woods are 11/32 and the 2016's are around 5/16 which could mean you need to raise your nock point. If you're new to making woods you may have missed a bend near the nock end or may have the nocks on crooked.

[Dave2old]

Homerdave -- you ignurnt snow-blind dummy! You wuntz akruccy, go get a durn turdy-art-sex! Geeze! Clearly, it's all yur falt, you durn dum bushrat.

Dave -- how you doing, pal? I'm having the same trouble and blame it, in my case, on "saving money" by buying cheap shafts at a trad bow show. Turns out they vary 50 grns in weight per dozen, and the spine variance is even worse. I'm going back to spending more on top-quality shafts that vary no more than 5 grns per dozen and are "multi-spined" at several turns for consistency. I've had best luck with compressed. I am now the proud owner of three dozen "economy" stump shafts that are pointless to shoot for practice, as a hit or miss means so little. Guess I'll take up flight shooting! When you guys get this figured out, please clue me in, eh? Yours, Clueless.

[Titan_Bow]

Another thing that will make a difference with wood arrows is orienting your nocks correctly vs. the grain.  Also, look to make sure there are no grain runoffs on the shafts.  
I shoot wood exclusively, and once I find the right match for my bow, I dont have any problems with my arrows.

[**DONOTDELETE**]

How much do top quality Fir shafts run per dozen guys? I've got a bunch of old growth fir i'm making shafts out of that are excellent!!!! Staighten easily, syay there, and are darn tough shafts.... i put 300 shots on a dozen this weekend at a 3D shoot. i shot them into trees, split branches, and peeled the fletchings off some of them....i was impressed..i didn't break one of them!..

I've got a few guys asking how much i want for a dozen of them, and i haven't a clue what a fair price would be.....can you give me an idea?

Kirk