Cutting limb pads on a T/D riser?

Started by GingerStick, December 10, 2021, 12:19:15 PM

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GingerStick

Looking for some suggestions/ advice on the most efficient way to cut the limb pad angles on a takedown riser. Been using a band saw now but getting mixed results. Was thinking about investing in a miter saw but would like some input before I run out and buy one. Thanks!

Bvas

I use a jig and run mine thru the table saw.
Then a quick touch on the disc sander to clean them up.
Some hunt to survive; some survive to hunt

kennym

Same as Brad , small sheet of plywood with the angle piece to hold side of riser and a stop for back end
Stay sharp, Kenny.

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GingerStick

Could one of you post a picture of the jig you use?  Got the concept but pictures always help ha

Crooked Stic

If you use a tablesaw sled you will flip the riser for the second cut witch means it needs to be perfectly square.
For my risers I have made profiling jigs with the angles built in. This keeps one side down and both pads on the same plain.
If the tablesaw method leaves one pad a bit different it can be fixed with a belt or disc sander.

The tablesaw on that has a miter slot guide to keep it true.

High on Archery.

Bvas

Quote from: Crooked Stic on December 10, 2021, 08:15:15 PM
If you use a tablesaw sled you will flip the riser for the second cut witch means it needs to be perfectly square.
I will try and post a pick of mine tomorrow. 

But Mike, I don't flip the riser. I flip the sled.
Some hunt to survive; some survive to hunt

Crooked Stic

High on Archery.

kennym

However you make the sled, riser pads need to be as perfectly square as you can get , or you will build limb twist right into the bow if the limbs have any curve at all. :thumbsup:
Stay sharp, Kenny.

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OldRawhide42

I am using a end mill. Cut the pad . Drill the pin holes. And tap . All with out moving the riser from the vice.

Mad Max

Quote from: OldRawhide42 on December 11, 2021, 08:52:48 AM
I am using a end mill. Cut the pad . Drill the pin holes. And tap . All with out moving the riser from the vice.

what tool are you using to set your angle before milling?
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Bvas

This is my sled Mike. Pretty simple design. One of the blocks pivots so that I can clamp the block in and just run it down the rip fence.

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OldRawhide42

I cut a wedge on the shop saw. Put it under the riser and on the vice.

I am NOT a machinist.

Mad Max

Quote from: OldRawhide42 on December 11, 2021, 01:20:38 PM
I cut a wedge on the shop saw. Put it under the riser and on the vice.

I am NOT a machinist.
:thumbsup:
What kind of mill do you have?
I would rather fail at something above my means, than to succeed at something  beneath my means  
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OldRawhide42


OldRawhide42

Mad Max do you know a better way to hold it. I do enjoy learning some of this.

Mad Max

#15
We always used a Kurt vice.
As long as the back jaw of the vice is parallel to the drill head your OK, some of the cheep ones are not.

Get one of these and google how to use a edge finder
https://www.amazon.com/Mitutoyo-050101-Edge-Finder-Shank-200/dp/B081XZYQT8
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OldRawhide42

Thanks Max. I have one of the edge finders. My vice is a cheep  copy of a kurt vice. It is out .002 over the 4" jaw.

Crooked Stic

Bvas that would be good keeping the same side down on the block and that gets the pads on the same plane with each other.
High on Archery.

GingerStick

This is what I ended up making, works great!
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Arlo

Rough cut on band saw , then fine tune it on an edge sander is the quickest way.

But I prefer a vertical mill with a power feed and a Kurt vise for precision. Mill it, drill it, tap it, and go.... I Use it for milling the limbs too, and 99% of the time they bolt up very straight. 

The trick to it is getting your limbs sanded parallel in the drum sander and making sure those limbs are dead square on one edge before you run em through the drum sander.  If you don't,   you can get a real mess on your hands building a twist into your limbs before you even profile them.

Oh there are lots of ways to screw up a perfectly good bow project...and getting limb pads off is one of them.

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