Made some changes

bowmaster12 · October 21, 2020, 06:57:31 PM

Made some changes tonight. First I increased my brace height 1/4 inch and wow what a noise difference. I moved my grip to the same grip i used on my training wheels bow. On the draw hand i kept my thumb down instead of sticking it up. Also start with my wrist on my draw hand out after watching some of Arne Moe's videos. I could feel it more in my back but my bicep still got sore after 30 shots or so. Still have work to do. But here are the early results. Tomorrow will be the real test to see if it can be repeated.

Tactical Draftsman · October 21, 2020, 08:17:42 PM

Looks like dead pork walking to me...

1Arrow1Kill · October 22, 2020, 05:45:34 PM

I too tend to do a little experimenting / changing from time-to-time after watching YouTube videos from the archery 'experts'. Some changes help, some don't and that's one of the many things I enjoy about this fluid quest called traditional archery. I don't know if I'm sad for, or jealous of, those archers who have been doing things the same way for so many years.

olddogrib · October 23, 2020, 06:44:34 AM

I think there's a lot to be gained by experimenting with different bow/string hand placement, especially with different bows having different grips. Sometimes I've returned to previous placement, but I feel it often produces worthwhile "temporary" gains in accuracy by causing me to focus on consistent placement and pressure until I get complacent again. Sort of like the win/win projects engineers got where I worked for 31 years...big bonuses for putting it in...big bonuses for taking it out two years later, lol!

Bowguy67 · October 23, 2020, 07:39:15 AM

Quote from: olddogrib on October 23, 2020, 06:44:34 AM
I think there's a lot to be gained by experimenting with different bow/string hand placement, especially with different bows having different grips. Sometimes I've returned to previous placement, but I feel it often produces worthwhile "temporary" gains in accuracy by causing me to focus on consistent placement and pressure until I get complacent again. Sort of like the win/win projects engineers got where I worked for 31 years...big bonuses for putting it in...big bonuses for taking it out two years later, lol!

As an instructor I strongly disagree. Even rough form if repeated exactly the same will produce consistent results. Proper form yields the easiest results. Grip is a very big part of it. Form needs to be correct, established, consistent. If any break down occurs, form needs to be readdressed to see where the issue is not band aided by changing something else

McDave · October 23, 2020, 09:22:21 AM

The thing is, there is only so much that can be explained by an instructor, video, or book in the English language. Beyond that, it comes down to body language, which is difficult or impossible to communicate between people; it is something that each person has to understand for himself. Even when something is communicated perfectly clearly between two people (you're creeping, you're moving your head) it takes a while for the person hearing it to incorporate exactly what those words mean in terms of their own physical awareness before the improvement can be made. Then, after a person learns basic form and is doing everything more or less correctly, it takes a while longer (in my case the rest of my life) and a certain amount of experimentation to determine which among the almost infinite variations in grip, anchor, back tension, rhythm, etc., is best for him.

Bowguy67 · October 23, 2020, 09:36:09 AM

Yes people can understand things differently. That's why a coach starting w a string bow is invaluable in explaining/teaching form. No way to screw that up if the instructor can instruct.

Friend · October 23, 2020, 09:42:52 AM

Visible progress can most inspiring...

PICKNGRIN · October 30, 2020, 08:22:25 AM

Good shooting! What kind of bow is that?

bowmaster12 · October 30, 2020, 08:41:48 AM

Pickngrin, the bow is a whisperstik mojo revurve made by J.D lund out of Michigan. Just when you think you have it figured out,the groups open back up. The joys of the journy of the stick bow

Bowguy67 · October 30, 2020, 09:47:38 AM

Quote from: bowmaster12 on October 30, 2020, 08:41:48 AM
Pickngrin, the bow is a whisperstik mojo revurve made by J.D lund out of Michigan. Just when you think you have it figured out,the groups open back up. The joys of the journy of the stick bow

Consistency. Something has changed. Talk yourself through your steps. Don't keep changing, reinforce good habits. Use a string bow to practice form if need be. Don't worry bout your shooting but concentrate on your form. Won't take long your accuracy will return.
Remember something else. After you learn and can repeat good form, most archery imo is mental. You're not gonna do well if you doubt yourself. Thinking things will always revert to bad is negative thinking.