When slip hunting...

GCook · April 05, 2019, 09:18:21 PM

Agreed.

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Ron LaClair · April 05, 2019, 11:49:59 PM

dnovo said, "I never walk, even slowly with a broadhead knocked. I personally
know of 2 different guys who slipped with an arrow knocked and both
died quickly from blood loss.
Too many things can go wrong"

I'm not saying it hasn't happened but in all of my years I've never heard of an instance of that happening and you personally know of two guys that slipped on their arrow and died?.....that's spooky. I wouldn't walk with a nocked arrow if I was you either.

Aaron Proffitt 2 · April 06, 2019, 02:03:22 AM

Quote from: Ron LaClair on April 05, 2019, 11:49:59 PM
dnovo said, "I never walk, even slowly with a broadhead knocked. I personally
know of 2 different guys who slipped with an arrow knocked and both
died quickly from blood loss.
Too many things can go wrong"

I'm not saying it hasn't happened but in all of my years I've never heard of an instance of that happening and you personally know of two guys that slipped on their arrow and died?.....that's spooky. I wouldn't walk with a nocked arrow if I was you either.

I was thinking the exact same thing.

GCook · April 06, 2019, 06:05:12 AM

I knew two guys who have been killed driving in city traffic. Doesnt mean I don't commute. There is risk in everything. I workd at water plants where we climbed 140 foot water tanks, worked on chlorine, ammonia and ozone systems (among other dangerous chemicals) and was on the hazmat response team. When it went bad we ran in while everyone else ran away. Can it happen? Absolutely. But is it likely to?
I like to believe I'm intelligent enough to know when to put the arrow in the quiver should circumstances put me in hazardous situations.

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Roger Norris · April 06, 2019, 08:06:07 AM

To each their own. I think it's a foolish risk, and frankly you guys are minimizing that risk to Lord knows how many young/new bowhunters right now.

And Ron, I have "slipped up" on both a caribou and mule deer, got to within 15 yards, and safely/slowly pulled an arrow out of my quiver. Both ended up in my freezer.

I don't walk around with my knife in my hand either.

I carry a quick-clot first aid product in my cargo pocket and in my truck door. Bleeding out is a really dumb way to die.

Ron LaClair · April 06, 2019, 08:35:52 AM

Like I said, bow hunting has changed, people don't do things the way it was done in years past. Even though I've done it I can't say that tree stands and baiting have been an improvement. It may have made for greater success but the trade offs have taken away from the challenge and the skill that we had 50/60 years ago.

As for "nocked and locked" or not, that's a personal choice, but if you haven't done it, it's hard to judge. If you fear what "might" happen then you shouldn't do it.

I knew a guy that was so afraid of heights that he would freeze and shake when he tried to climb a ladder stand so he hunted from the ground.

Roger, years ago I hunted with "Mr Bowie knife" Bill Bagwell. He suggested to carry super glue for an emergency to stop bleeding.....if you accidentally cut yourself with your "Bowie knife"

Ron LaClair · April 06, 2019, 08:37:23 AM

"I like to believe I'm intelligent enough to know when to put the arrow in the quiver should circumstances put me in hazardous situations."

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Ron LaClair · April 06, 2019, 09:01:13 AM

Can anyone remember bow quivers without a broadhead cover? This is from 1958 with a quiver of big Goshawk broadheads just waiting to slice me. As I remember I was VERY aware of the danger and VERY careful.

The coon skins are from two coons that came into a wild apple tree one evening where I was set up. Two shots, two coons... We ate them both.

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BAK · April 06, 2019, 09:31:24 AM

In over 50 years I've never heard anyone say "slip" hunting till this thread.

Cyclic-Rivers · April 06, 2019, 09:35:33 AM

I think the greatest misconception of people who are picturing slip hunting or still hunting as you will comes from people who view it as walking through the woods with a Broadhead very slowly. when in fact to do it correctly you are essentially just standing around, and taking a step once every 5 minutes or so. So I guess with that in mind it's no different than standing in your tree stand with an arrow nocked.

Personally for me, I don't knock an arrow until it's time and the moment and situation will dictate when it's time. with that being said I will never at this time in my life you taking shots at a deer that jumps out of his bed and is moving rapidly. I do not practice that shot nor will I take it

I do not want to be one of those guys who comes on here and says they messed up, in a situation that was completely controllable and preventable. I also dislike spending three or four fruitless days of tracking only to wonder what if? I know most people just assume deer live if they're not recovered. I personally usually assume that I'm feeding coyotes.

Perhaps I'm too cautious in my shot selection there for as a result I don't put many deer in the freezer with my bow. But on the flip side I am not talking about how arrows deflected by branches caused me to miss my mark. I once shot at a walking dear, and ended up Center punching a sapling that I have no idea was there. When your focus so hard on one spot in the animal is moving you are not seeing everything else that can cause a hunt to go Bad

Cyclic-Rivers · April 06, 2019, 09:44:18 AM

Please disregard my grammar imperfections, as I am using voice text. And I don't want my post to make other people feel like I'm talking down on their Styles and choices While Hunting, and I for one have made those mistakes in the past. and know where my comfort level is at this point in my life

Wudstix · April 06, 2019, 02:50:12 PM

We call that spook and shoot instead of spot and stalk!

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At Granger the only time you see hogs, mostly is after they bust from the thickest, nastiest stuff on the face of the earth. Being ready for a running shoot at a streaking pig, is the only option.

Hunting pigs at other spots is different, deer also. The situation is more controlled, and slightly more predictable. Granger is PhD level hog hunting, especially with a stickbow; going solo is a blast, but rarely productive.

GCook · April 06, 2019, 10:49:46 PM

Lmbo. Yeah Ronnie coined that phrase when we were at 3Fingers.

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blacktailbob · April 07, 2019, 08:54:32 AM

50 years, really BAK?

To me slip hunting is quietly moving through the woods as the woods themselves dictate how fast or slow you can successfully slip. Once an animal is sighted or fresh sign is found ( like steam still coming off a fresh scat pile ) then the stalk begins. Then with or w/o an arrow nocked will depend on the particular circumstances.
For me anyway.

Ron LaClair · April 07, 2019, 09:48:12 AM

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blacktailbob · April 07, 2019, 11:12:39 AM

Forgot to mention; I like Websters 1. b definition of slip.

Sam McMichael · April 07, 2019, 12:07:59 PM

I used to keep an arrow on the bow as a regular practice. However, I finally realized that I just don't have the ability to slip quietly through the woods. I would make a cloud crackle and crunch, so now I hunt solely from stands. The only accident I had was when using an old Kwickee Kwiver with no protective hood. I stabbed myself in the thigh. Now, I don't even string my bow till I reach my stand. Likewise, I unstring it to walk out. I have been hunting since 1964 and have only had a couple of instances of walking up successfully on a deer. I have practiced, read books, watched videos, and talked to many experienced stalkers (slippers?), but I'll just stick with stringing up when I get to the stand.

Roger Norris · April 07, 2019, 01:51:17 PM

Quote from: Ron LaClair on April 06, 2019, 08:35:52 AM
Like I said, bow hunting has changed, people don't do things the way it was done in years past. Even though I've done it I can't say that tree stands and baiting have been an improvement. It may have made for greater success but the trade offs have taken away from the challenge and the skill that we had 50/60 years ago.

As for "nocked and locked" or not, that's a personal choice, but if you haven't done it, it's hard to judge. If you fear what "might" happen then you shouldn't do it.

I knew a guy that was so afraid of heights that he would freeze and shake when he tried to climb a ladder stand so he hunted from the ground.

Roger, years ago I hunted with "Mr Bowie knife" Bill Bagwell. He suggested to carry super glue for an emergency to stop bleeding.....if you accidentally cut yourself with your "Bowie knife"

Don't worry Lobo....I'll be around to slap a Quick-Clot on you before your femoral pumps you dry

trad_bowhunter1965 · April 07, 2019, 04:51:04 PM

if I am spot and staking for High Desert Mule deer I wait until I am about 100 yards or elk hunt and calling I will nock and arrow sitting on a water hole I will nock and arrow but small game hunting or stump shooting always have and arrow on my string.

YosemiteSam · April 08, 2019, 01:20:06 PM

I nock as soon as I sit or as soon as I start a stalk.

I have fallen a few times while still hunting. Usually, it's when I'm trying to look around while also taking a few steps. It's a good reminder for me to either walk or watch but don't try to do both at the same time. Granted, my terrain is usually very steep & tricky. Not exactly midwestern cornfields. The last time I slipped was while scouting for turkeys about a month ago. I even had a trekking pole for balance. But a frosty morning on brushy slope with enough fallen & dead timber underfoot to make the forest floor look like a giant wicker basket makes standing up straight a challenge sometimes. Glad I didn't have anything sharp in my hands that time.

For me, I'll take the risk if I'm actually in-pursuit. Otherwise, I keep them stuffed in the quiver. I'm not the least bit confident in my ability to take a running shot.