Staining veneers..........

Started by LookMomNoSights, December 07, 2017, 08:43:00 AM

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LookMomNoSights

When it comes to staining veneers......what are some of the do's and don't?   Well aware the moisture content in any of the woods we use is a crucial factor so I'm thinking water based stains are to be avoided?  Should I go with an alcohol based stain?  And should I be applying gently with a rag to avoid over saturation?  
I have curly maple veneers I'd like to stain.

monterey

I stained maple veneers with an oil based stain once and it didn't take long to delam.    :(  

I did.another with water based which was thoroughly dried before glue up.  It's still shooting.

I think alcohol based would be ok too and would dry quicker.
Monterey

"I didn't say all that stuff". - Confucius........and Yogi Berra

Bowjunkie

I've stained some. I did one maple bow with Minwax stain. It felt very waxy afterwards, but as far as I know it's still shooting... although I don't think that guy shot it much. I wouldn't use that stuff again.

I used water based anilines, and it worked ok. I had to wait until it was dry and the lams warped a little, but it didn't seem to be an issue.

On the rest I've used alcohol based aniline dyes without a single issue. Don't worry about saturation. It's alcohol, it evaporates quickly. I use a cotton cloth cut from old t-shirts or socks, get it wet enough to get even coverage. Give the alcohol plenty of time to evaporate, then go over it longways with a clean very stiff bench brush to remove any cloth particles or dye residue.

The last one was curly maple that I put in a one piece recurve, and I mixed up a 'weak' dye, just to tint it the tiniest bit of a light rose color, but more to make the curl really jump out at ya... and paired it with a cocobolo riser. I hated to see that one go.

arachnid

How about home made stains such as viniger+steel wool?

Roy from Pa


LookMomNoSights

Alcohol.....I figured so.   Thanks for the input and advice so far everyone!

BrushWolf

Binghams sells several different colors of dye. I've used mainly the walnut but have others. I mix mine with water but I think alcohol will work also. I usually grind veneer down on the side I want stained. Stain and let dry then finish grinding them to size   I worried about warping them. But to date never had an issue with it or delaminates.
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Maryland Mountain Man

I plan on ordering some dark and regular walnut stains from Bingham to finish a Modoc hickory selfbow.  When you've done the dyeing and smoothing, do you use something like a paste wax to seal it as the final step?  I've got some Johnson's laying around I was hoping to use.
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Roy from Pa

You could do that. I seal my wood bows with tung oil. Some use bear grease, true oil, etc.

Maryland Mountain Man

Got my aniline dyes today.  Now I was wondering what is the best alcohol to use?  I was thinking about using denatured alcohol.
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monterey

Just an opinion here, but I'd go with the denatured.

Probably a good opportunity to do some experimenting on test strips.
Monterey

"I didn't say all that stuff". - Confucius........and Yogi Berra

Crooked Stic

I have used Rit dye and denatured alcohol.
High on Archery.

Overspined

Denatured alcohol and transtint dyes

Roy from Pa

Denatured alcohol. I use it in my alcohol burner too.

It's cheaper buying it at home depot in a gallon can.

bamboo

alcohol carries water---give it plenty of time to dry!

 i've dyed a few and the edges always stress me out--have a plan!
Mike

Maryland Mountain Man

I went with the denatured alcohol and ebony black aniline dye. Brushed it on and then rubbed it in creating light spots and it has an antique or museum piece look to it.  Couldn't be happier with the way it turned out.  Made my first Flemish twist string and put on it as well.
Forearms... reminding archers of poor form for over 60,000 years.

Roy from Pa

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