building flemish twist strings

[fujimo]

okay- so i relented and built a few Ft strings using fast flite- been using endless loop until now-
made the jig and building the strings was no problem- they came out ok- just having real problems to get the right length first time-
first one too long- then too short - then a 1/2" out and so on and so on- what are the tricks to getting it right- how do the pro string builders do it- you order a 62" string- and thats what they make.
all help appreciated
cheers
wayne

[Wolftrail]

You may want to look at this. I hope it helps.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjU-0lfDUzI

[Mad Max]

If it's to long ,unwrap one end and shorten that end some

Same problem with jig from B50 to FF

 

[Roy from Pa]

Practice practice practice...

[wcdurand]

Wayne I thought I can teach you nothing!!!! I do know how to build a flemish string!!! Lessons free!!
Regards Willem

[jsweka]

Yeah each bow will require a bit different string, especially if you set up your jig as AMO length.  That's what I did and when I put the peg in for a 68" bow, a string will come out perfect for my 68" hill style bows.  However, when I make a string for my mild r/d bows which are 62", I have to use the 64" peg slot otherwise the string is too short.  I recently built a sting for a friend's recurve.  Boy that was a complete guess, but I got lucky on the first attempt and with a little stretching, it worked out perfect.

[fujimo]

building the string itself was easy, and really kinda fun- just the variation got frustrating!

1. do you guys count the exact no. of twists in the nock loops-0 so there is consistancy- or do you simply measure the length, then double back and twist into the main body of the string.
2.what length do you twist back into the main body of the string- to ensure that it will hold.
i had the one i got right- pull out on the ends, as soon as i strung it. it didnt come undone- just pulled out- not completely just slipped some so that i still could see that the twist was intact.
so i imagine that was not enough length twisted back in, and a combination of possibly not tight enough twists.

thanks fellas

[fujimo]

Willem, I KNOW that there is a lot more you are gonna teach me- in fact can i book some string making lessons from ya- say maybe august or september next year?- does that work for you?   :D  
you could fly out here  show me how- maybe i can trade you a fish or something!!          

Jeff, do you have a link to your jig, i used sam harpers on "poor folks"! there seem to be so many on the net!

[macbow]

Being consistant with your twists has a big effect on length.
Even with notes and my own formula, when my Ostioarthritus was flared up my string lengths started slipping.

[frank bullitt]

Yep, being consistent, keep records, yes you can count the twists in loops or measure length.  And yes as Roy says Practice!

Different materials, strand count, etc, will change things, too!

With all the new materials and serving sizes, offered today, I probably would have not built them proffesionally for 23 years!    

Continuous looped strings are easier on your hands, too!  

[frank bullitt]

Yep, being consistent, keep records, yes you can count the twists in loops or measure length.  And yes as Roy says Practice!

Different materials, strand count, etc, will change things, too!

With all the new materials and serving sizes, offered today, I probably would have not built them proffesionally for 23 years!    

Continuous looped strings are easier on your hands, too!  

[Roy from Pa]

I measure in 8 inches from the end and start the loop there.

[fujimo]

thanks guys!
all the jigs do is create a tapered bundle of a specific length- does it really matter what jig one uses? or am i missing something?

[macbow]

Don't think it matters as long as you get used to your jig.
Keep notes.
Mark on the jig what works.

[fujimo]

[Mad Max]

After you get to the end of the loose ends I go 20 more twist, then wax it real good

[fujimo]

you mean after the first loop is built?
then its the main body of the string that you are twisting up, in preparation for the bottom loop- is that correct how i understand you mate. if it is, then i did the same thing. coincidentally also giving 20 twists.
how much "tail"do you twist into the string, after making the loop

[Roy from Pa]

Fujio Boy, let your daughter make them..  

[fujimo]

too true- shes way smarter than me- has more of her mother in her- but then again her mother has incredibly good taste in men  

[Krasus]

Ah Wayne just stick with endless loop. Lol I could never get my flemish twists right either. Gave up and only do enless.


Let merewyn know I'll pick her up at the airport on Monday.  Lol seeing as we are talking about her good taste in men    ahhemmm. Lol