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Started by TheUnatural, March 27, 2013, 12:15:00 PM

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TheUnatural

Hello everyone, I just had a quick question about planing bamboo (though this probably applies to planing in general). I am currently in the middle of making a Japanese bow (yumi) and I am using TBIII for the glue-up. Since this bow's lams are 7'6'' and need to be only about 1/4'' thick. My question is, since I'm using TBIII and have to make my surfaces as perfect as possible, how do I get my lams to that consistent thickness and flatness throughout the length of the lamination? Also, what grit sandpaper should I use on the 'boo before glue-up to make the TBIII most effective? I've heard some conflicting information (rough vs. smooth).
Something I Learned Making Bows: You never know how many small cuts and scrapes you have on your hands UNTIL you wipe something down with acetone.

Bowjunkie

Why would they not be uniform in thickness and flat after running them through the planer? Isn't that what planers do?

TheUnatural

I don't have a planer, I'm using a plane.
Something I Learned Making Bows: You never know how many small cuts and scrapes you have on your hands UNTIL you wipe something down with acetone.

Roy from Pa

I would use a long 12" block of wood and sand them length wise with 150 grit.

onemississipp

I would build a "u" shaped tunnel, with the sides 1/4" tall. Lay the boo in the tunnel and plane away!
Dustin
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onemississipp

Oh for glue up I would go with 80.
Dustin
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TheUnatural

I think I'm just going to break down and buy an electric planer at this point. Shoot, I usually take so much pride in telling people that I build bows without any power tools...
Something I Learned Making Bows: You never know how many small cuts and scrapes you have on your hands UNTIL you wipe something down with acetone.

Roy from Pa

Ah shucks, if your gonna use glue ya may as well use power tools:)

TheUnatural

QuoteOriginally posted by Roy from Pa:
Ah shucks, if your gonna use glue ya may as well use power tools:)
As opposed to what? Some bows require glue.
Something I Learned Making Bows: You never know how many small cuts and scrapes you have on your hands UNTIL you wipe something down with acetone.

fujimo

readily available commercial glues, as apposed to fish, hide, flour (gluten) or milk(lactose) glue.

TheUnatural

Oh, okay. I thought there was some strange sect of bowyer-purist that didn't believe in using glue.
Something I Learned Making Bows: You never know how many small cuts and scrapes you have on your hands UNTIL you wipe something down with acetone.

LittleBen

I have an electric hand planer, and I remember it tearing a little on bamboo at the nodes. I don't know if I would recommend that.

Personally I think the best thing would be a lamination grinder. You can make one from an edge/spindle sander or using a 1/4-3/4hp motor and a 3"x3" sanding drum.

I'm thinking you could make one for $150 or less. Alot less if you find a used spindle sander on caigslist or something. Theres a million how-tos on lam grinder so I wont get into it bu tyou can find them.

Roy from Pa

Was just messing with you on the glue and power tools. I use both a lot:)

TheUnatural

QuoteOriginally posted by Roy from Pa:
Was just messing with you on the glue and power tools. I use both a lot:)
It's fine. For some reason I took what you said at face value, and it lead to some confusion.
Something I Learned Making Bows: You never know how many small cuts and scrapes you have on your hands UNTIL you wipe something down with acetone.

onemississipp

Just for clarity a planer ( power type) will not make something flat. What you want is a  jointer, grizzly used to make a 4 inch one. I picked one up for 99.00 new.
Dustin
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onemississipp

Depending how thin you want something a drum sander is the next option, or build one as others have said.

Or just call kennym
Dustin
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TheUnatural

QuoteOriginally posted by onemississipp:
Just for clarity a planer ( power type) will not make something flat. What you want is a  jointer, grizzly used to make a 4 inch one. I picked one up for 99.00 new.
Is there an advantage that a jointer will have over a lam grinder?
Something I Learned Making Bows: You never know how many small cuts and scrapes you have on your hands UNTIL you wipe something down with acetone.

Roy from Pa

Would be a heck of a lot cheaper:)

TheUnatural

QuoteOriginally posted by Roy from Pa:
Would be a heck of a lot cheaper:)
The jointer or the grinder? I assume you're talking about the grinder, because I can't find a jointer for under $150.
Something I Learned Making Bows: You never know how many small cuts and scrapes you have on your hands UNTIL you wipe something down with acetone.

Roy from Pa

Well I was thinking about good lam grinders that go for in excess of $1,000.00.

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