i now feel pretty confident with my set up. i'm now getting between 27-30 pounds of kinetic energy. the charts on bowsite said you need 25 pounds of kinetic energy to kill a deer, but they can be killed with less then that. as long as i avoid the bone i feel confident out to 25 yards. i'm planning on shooting a magnus II 2 blade or a magnus stinger two blade.

VINNIE

IF YOUR DEAD SET ON A "LIGHT" ARROW GO WITH A CARBON.  THEY RECOVER FROM PARADOX SO MUCH QUICKER AND DON'T FLEX LIKE ALUMINUM WHEN THEY HIT.  HAVING HAD A COUPLE BAD OUTCOMES WITH "LIGHTER" ALUMINUM ARROWS AT VERY CLOSE RANGE I'VE COME TO BELIEVE THAT ARROW FLIGHT IS OF FOREMOST IMPORTANCE.  I ALSO BELIEVE ARROW WEIGHT WILL MAKE UP FOR THOSE TIMES YOU DO HIT BONE.  I NOW USE MY ALUMINUMS FOR STUMPING AND PLAN TO HUNT WITH A 575 GRAIN GOLDTIP WITH WOODSMANS AND 100 GRAIN INSERT.  I HOPE COME SEPTEMBER I CAN TEST MY (HEAVY FRONTLOADED CARBON = COMPLETE PENETRATION THEORY)

SCOTT

Having your arrow flying perfect is the key in my opinion. I shot 2 deer last year with a 51# BW and 1916 with a Thunderhead broadhead. Total arrow weight was right at 400 gr. One deer was at 5 yards and the other was 20 yards. Complete passthrough on both deer, neither went over 100 yards.

This year I'm shooting Carbon Express Thunderstorm SE shafts out of a 50# Widow, they will weigh just about the same as the 1916's. Should be awesome!