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Simmons sharks????!!!!

Started by weasle, March 26, 2007, 09:40:00 AM

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James Wrenn

She was what is considered a good doe from around here.She was pretty old and maybe 120lbs live weight.17 yard shot with a 46lb drawn only about 22" because she was on the back side of the tree.Maybe 35lbs worth of draw weight.
 
....Quality deer management means shooting them before they get tough....

benny

James
What do you use to sharpen your simmons with?

Benny

James Wrenn

I think the Simmons sharpener is worth the money if you plan on useing these heads a lot.I have sharpened them with about everything but now I use the cardboard and felt whells to do it.It took a little bit to get it down but now it is very quick to get good results.

Cory I started taking pictures of what the simmons would do after the first couple of times I used them.I was a bit got away with to be honest.  :)  Now when someone tells me I need a little  bitty broadhead for my lighter weight bows I just show them that ain't the case and be done with it.  :D
....Quality deer management means shooting them before they get tough....

Cory Mattson

Benny the corc stiks system will make an expert sharpener out of ANYBODY - get a set - I hit em with a file - then finish them off with the stiks

James - almost every member of my club has switched to simmons heads too - sure is fun to blood trail standing up!
Dude you are gettin after em - good job!

By the way Y'all - this is the best turkey head also - I cut a V backwards into the tip - this eliminates any glancing - and will just about cut a turkey in half - it is nice to hit a turkey and not worry too - you will be laughing instead of worrying next time you hit a gobbler!!!!
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KyleAllen

Wow!! you boys just sold me some simmons!! All of the pics are outstanding. Anybody tried the 190 interceptors? Those are the ones that kinda caught my eye.
Kyle

JBiorn

Ordering a set so I can compare with Eskimos(My current fav), I have a feeling that I'll be switching to Tree Sharks real soon.

Jeff

James Wrenn

I used to shoot the intercepters but went to the tigershark in the 1 9/16th wide heads.They are much stronger with a better supported tip than the intercepters but give the same nice cut.I like the 135 on an aluminum adapter because it gives me a 175gn head and I can use 175gn feild points for tuneing.On my SSTs that gives me a perfect 500gn arrow that works well for my bow weights.Once you start down the simmons road it will be hard to ever get off it.  :)
....Quality deer management means shooting them before they get tough....

Joe Subler

I use a Tiger Shark also but with a 100 grain SS adaptor for a total of 235 grains.  These shoot great out of my Dakota.  I found them difficult to sharpen at first but emailed Simmons and the reply was:  

""use a half round file (6in.) then finish it off with ceramic rod. We make a sharpener just for these heads, the Steelmaster sharpener. You can see it on the website, it is very simple and easy to use and you can sharpen a head that is still attached to the arrow.""

Problem solved  :readit:  


Joe
62" Mohawk  53#@27"

Longbowwally

Cory - good to see you post...

Cory recommended the Simmons Treesharks to me a couple of years ago, but after seeing how large they were - almost looked like a novelty head - I almost didn't use them. But, I knew Cory knows what he's talking about so I shot a few deer with them and he was right - they are awesome!

I've never had a treeshark blow up like the one in the pic flatmoMB posted. I did miss a deer almost straight down once and the broadhead hit a rock dead on. All it did was curl the tip some - I would expect any broadhead hitting a rock dead on to do the same. I do use the glue on version which looks stronger than the screw on.

Someone asked about the Innerceptor. I've killed one deer with it. I used the screw on for that kill and it worked fine. But, I would use the glue on if I bought anymore.  

If I didn't use the tree shark I'd probably use the tiger shark. It is the same width as the Innerceptor but is a lttle shorter and looks stronger to me.

I really believe in a large two blade head - at least 1.5 " wide. The Ashby studies are what a lot of people base their broadhead choices on, but he focuses mainly on penetration and broadhead strength. For the areas I hunt(thick) and the animals I hunt(deer, hogs and turkeys), penetration is not an issue when using any two blade head. But a big old nasty hole in the animal is very important to me in order to maximize the blood trail so I can find a hit animal without to much trouble when he goes into a thick cutover or swamp. For me, the Simmons works really well for those situations. JMHO
LONG LIVE THE LONGBOW!

Wally Holmes

KyleAllen

longbowwally, very nice post.

JC

I carry the 190 interceptor with a bleeder and the 190 Treeshark with bleeder (both screw in) on a regular basis. I've killed 5 big game animals with the 190 interceptor without failure of any sort. Two weeks ago I used one on the second shot to my goat, it broke both front leg bones and stuck in a cactus 10 yards away...still straight and huntable. A few strokes on the wheelie sharpener and it was as sharp as before the shot. I've had one penetrate a small buck's vertebrate, downing him, but the head came out unscathed and still as straight as the day I mounted it. All the rest, well it leaves enough blood to follow the trail by touch if necessary.

I've yet to kill anything with the big tree shark but I wouldn't hesitate to shoot it at any deer sized critter. On hogs, I probably wouldn't shoot it at a big one, even with the high horsepower bows I normally shoot but not because I would be worried about it bending but the big wide blade catching a legbone and not penetrating properly.

I've said this on other posts, but I think the Simmons are superb heads. They are the straightest "traditional head" I've ever owned, each and every one spun like a brand new field point. I find them very easy to sharpen, especially with their cheap wheelie sharpener. With the bleeder installed, it opens up most everything like a can of soup. I always have at least one in every quiver I carry, that says a lot.
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Cory Mattson

Thanks Wally -- hey you guys inspired us to do a "Simmons Greatest Hits" notebook at the club!!!! James Those photos have me laughing OUT LOUD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My hunting buddy Matt Quick shot a hog last month and cut the heart in Half! - after the usual 7 inch entry and 7 inch exit ---- we should have photographed that one.

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jchunt4ever

So now that I have seen the damage these things cause, I want to try some as well. However, I have a question, are the vented ones very noisy in flight?
I was thinking about the tiger sharks, but wondering about the in flight noise caused by those small vents.
"A hunt based only on trophies taken falls short of what the ultimate goal should be ... time to commune with your inner soul as you share the outdoors with the birds, animals, and the fish that live there."
--Fred Bear

slayer1

Here are a couple more. I shot this doe with the 160 grain land sharks

Entry
 

slayer1

And Exit. I will never switch from these heads.
 

James Wrenn

Cory a buddy of ours switched last year after inspecting Wally and my quiver at the 3d.He shot 3 deer and saids he had to put the tail gate up on his truck because he was embarresed for anyone to see so much blood. :)He is another treeshark man now and won't shoot anything else.JC don't worry about shooting those hogs with the treeshark.
....Quality deer management means shooting them before they get tough....

Steve O

Cory,

Do you have a picture of what you do to the tip for turkeys?  I can't quite figure out what you are saying...

beachbowhunter

Looks like I'm not the only one who has a morbid attraction to these broadheads!!!!
Ishi was a Californian                   :cool:

Longbowwally

Jchunt4ever - never had a noise problem with any of the Simmons.
LONG LIVE THE LONGBOW!

Wally Holmes

Cory Mattson

Steve I do not have a picture and I am computer stupid --- but try this: Clamp the arrow in a work bench like a black & decker - from the tip straight back "nub" the tip - like many of us use to do a long time ago when broadhead metal was soft - small is OK - wider is OK (remember to start with a shaft that spins true - cause you can't spin it after this) - after it is flat across the front - lean up the center filing a "v" into the tip - 1/3 inch wide is nice if you can get it. You will have fantastic results on turkeys - these don't bounce off

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