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Phenolic bow

Started by SpeRo, April 05, 2024, 09:32:23 AM

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Friend

Welcome...an

I am partial to phenolic and G10....have two Bob Lee Ultimates and a TimberGhost phenolic with a G10 TG on the way...also have other phenolic models...prefer the added mass and its durability in enduring approximately 100 hunts per season. 
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SpeRo

Quote from: Friend on April 07, 2024, 02:12:33 PM
Welcome...an

I am partial to phenolic and G10....have two Bob Lee Ultimates and a TimberGhost phenolic with a G10 TG on the way...also have other phenolic models...prefer the added mass and its durability in enduring approximately 100 hunts per season.

Proof against the elements ! :thumbsup:

The Bob Lee Ultimate look great, i wish i could try one someday.

What stands out in this topic is the greater weight of these bows or rivers. For a recurve it is a plus in the stability of the shot :archer2:

Thanks for yours returns :campfire:
Bear Custom Kodiak TD 52# 28"
Black Widow PSA 3 66# 28"
Great Plains Longbow R/D Bamboo 55# 28"

Wudstix

I'm a big fan of weight in the middle of the riser handle.
:campfire: :coffee: :archer2: :campfire:
"If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space!!!" - Me

Psalms 121: 1-3 - King David

60" Big River 67#@28"              
60" MOAB D/R LB 62#@27"
60" Big River D/R LB 65#@27"
62" Kota Badlands LB 72#@28"
62" Howatt TD 62#@28
58" Bear Grizzly 70#@28"
62" Big River D/R LB 60#@30"
66" Moosejaw Razorback LB 60#@28"

"Memento Mori"
PBS - Associate Member
Retired DoD Civ 1985-2019

Blackstick

You might also want to keep your eyes open for a Bear 67 ½ Super Kodiak. (Black Beauty) Those risers are also made from phenolic. That was my first real hunting bow and to be honest, I don't know why I ever bought another bow.

SpeRo

Quote from: Blackstick on April 11, 2024, 04:14:50 PM
You might also want to keep your eyes open for a Bear 67 ½ Super Kodiak. (Black Beauty) Those risers are also made from phenolic. That was my first real hunting bow and to be honest, I don't know why I ever bought another bow.


My father told me about this model... I would really like to find one but I don't dream too much, these bows are carefully guarded and I totally understand that.
I still keep my eyes open! :campfire:
Bear Custom Kodiak TD 52# 28"
Black Widow PSA 3 66# 28"
Great Plains Longbow R/D Bamboo 55# 28"

McDave

Quote from: SpeRo on April 07, 2024, 01:45:47 PM
For me it's look more rough to touch than the old phenolic in the Cascade or Thunderbird.

Bob Lee bows are made primarily for hunting, so the finishes are dull, so as not to reflect much light.  Ideal for hunting in a ground blind where black clothing is recommended.  Their goal is to provide enough friction on the surface to aid in gripping the bow.  I wouldn't call it "rough." 
TGMM Family of the Bow

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SpeRo

Quote from: McDave on April 11, 2024, 07:52:03 PM
Quote from: SpeRo on April 07, 2024, 01:45:47 PM
For me it's look more rough to touch than the old phenolic in the Cascade or Thunderbird.

Bob Lee bows are made primarily for hunting, so the finishes are dull, so as not to reflect much light.  Ideal for hunting in a ground blind where black clothing is recommended.  Their goal is to provide enough friction on the surface to aid in gripping the bow.  I wouldn't call it "rough."

I really like your interventions, very pragmatic and fair.

For my part i spoked from a visual impression.

I understand, these parameters may seem incidental but can change the situation in fact.

So what do we say? These bows are pleasantly suitable for harsh situations  :archer:
Bear Custom Kodiak TD 52# 28"
Black Widow PSA 3 66# 28"
Great Plains Longbow R/D Bamboo 55# 28"

McDave

Quote from: SpeRo on April 12, 2024, 07:13:43 AM
So what do we say? These bows are pleasantly suitable for harsh situations  :archer:

  :goldtooth:
TGMM Family of the Bow

Technology....the knack of arranging the world so that we don't have to experience it.

MnFn

#28
If micarta is an option, I have Liberty English take down that has a micarta riser that I really like. It's a pleasant shooting bow and takes down to two pieces, about thirty four inches each.
Just guessing a take down bow would make shipping easier, cheaper.
"By the looks of his footprint he must be a big fella"  Marge Gunderson (Fargo)

"Ain't no rock going to take my place". Luke 19:40

Wudstix

Phenolic is a good heavy riser option.  Also, a great take down option.
:campfire: :coffee: :archer2: :campfire: :o
"If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space!!!" - Me

Psalms 121: 1-3 - King David

60" Big River 67#@28"              
60" MOAB D/R LB 62#@27"
60" Big River D/R LB 65#@27"
62" Kota Badlands LB 72#@28"
62" Howatt TD 62#@28
58" Bear Grizzly 70#@28"
62" Big River D/R LB 60#@30"
66" Moosejaw Razorback LB 60#@28"

"Memento Mori"
PBS - Associate Member
Retired DoD Civ 1985-2019

SpeRo

Quote from: MnFn on April 14, 2024, 11:51:03 AM
If micarta is an option, I have Liberty English take down that has a micarta riser that I really like. It's a pleasant shooting bow and takes down to two pieces, about thirty four inches each.
Just guessing a take down bow would make shipping easier, cheaper.

It's a bit nebulous when you look at the calculation of customs fees, it's flat rates and percentages that add up but it keeps increasing.
My father has a friend in the USA who sent him some vintage broadheads.
He got $50 worth of customs even though it was a gift...
In short, it's a bit of a shame to be able to trade with you...
So I don't think the fact that it can be dismantled has much impact on the bill!
But very nice bow in any case :campfire:
It doesn't look like micarta in the photo though, it looks more like leather!
Bear Custom Kodiak TD 52# 28"
Black Widow PSA 3 66# 28"
Great Plains Longbow R/D Bamboo 55# 28"

MnFn

You probably know this but in the case of my bow which is a bow bolt takedown, micarta offers more strength for that and is a little heavier. A good friend Allen Boice made this bow and he is now deceased.

I just sent the photo as an example; they do not all look the same. Highly unlikely I would ever sell this one.

Best to you and glad you have joined our ranks. Can you hunt with a bow in France and if so what game animals are available to hunt?
"By the looks of his footprint he must be a big fella"  Marge Gunderson (Fargo)

"Ain't no rock going to take my place". Luke 19:40

SpeRo

Quote from: MnFn on April 15, 2024, 11:05:58 AM
You probably know this but in the case of my bow which is a bow bolt takedown, micarta offers more strength for that and is a little heavier. A good friend Allen Boice made this bow and he is now deceased.

I just sent the photo as an example; they do not all look the same. Highly unlikely I would ever sell this one.

Best to you and glad you have joined our ranks. Can you hunt with a bow in France and if so what game animals are available to hunt?

Yeah we said it above, micarta is a good choice for a robust hunting bow. I totally understand you , it's the kind of bow that we keep for life, only for what it represents.Sorry for your friend, may he rest in peace.

Thanks you, i really enjoy to see a community with so many people and shared experience! Yeah we can hunt with a bow in France but only recently compared to you. Late 90s early 2000s legalization took place.

We have to go through a day of training which provides a certificate, but it is not a very popular way of hunting, and the traditional ones are very rare. 90% of compounds...
For those who are game, everything that is legally huntable with a rifle... during the season of course  :knothead:
Bear Custom Kodiak TD 52# 28"
Black Widow PSA 3 66# 28"
Great Plains Longbow R/D Bamboo 55# 28"

Kirkll

There are other options with a combination of wood and G-10 that gives you the mass weight and strength, plus the look of wood.... The Sasquatch Special that i custom build has a full G-10 overlay on the back of the riser and a G-10 I beam combined. Here are a couple to look at.

https://photos.app.goo.gl/AUZYBaP5thoBtB8h8

https://photos.app.goo.gl/1qSWxNyhRN1w4XJq7

https://photos.app.goo.gl/76uYnTQeXqcANmo68

I also build this same design with a G-10 frame in an ILF format.

https://goo.gl/photos/XRykbXpgWy8rzbvt5

There are a number of bow designs that i use a combination of wood and G-10 you can look at on my website here. I would be more than happy to build something for you. I have a few guys in France that have been shooting my bows for years too.      Kirk



http://bigfootbows.com/b/bows/bows.html



Big Foot Bows
Traditional Archery
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SpeRo


I didn't know your factory before that. For what my compliments are worth, I am obliged to congratulate your work. You make very beautiful bows. The Obsidians series are so original and refined... respect.

I was thinking that if I had to pick up a bow in the future it would be a Schafer but now you're making me hesitate! :archer:
It's nice of you in any case to have taken the time to share your work with us.

I'm going to discuss about your bows on the French forum, to find out what they think of them and that way I'll do some publicity for Big Foot. :campfire:
Bear Custom Kodiak TD 52# 28"
Black Widow PSA 3 66# 28"
Great Plains Longbow R/D Bamboo 55# 28"

Wudstix

"If you're not living on the edge, you're taking up too much space!!!" - Me

Psalms 121: 1-3 - King David

60" Big River 67#@28"              
60" MOAB D/R LB 62#@27"
60" Big River D/R LB 65#@27"
62" Kota Badlands LB 72#@28"
62" Howatt TD 62#@28
58" Bear Grizzly 70#@28"
62" Big River D/R LB 60#@30"
66" Moosejaw Razorback LB 60#@28"

"Memento Mori"
PBS - Associate Member
Retired DoD Civ 1985-2019

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