ok so if a person sticks with the same kind of wood species ...and stick with the same diameter....do wood shafts weigh the same or differant if you change spine stiffness thanks john

I have found the higher spines usually weigh a little more.

My experience is that even within the same spine group and the same diameter shaft, the weight can vary from one order to the next.  I've always paid extra to have the spines and weights be matched within a certain tolerance.  Back when I shot more wood arrows, if I couldn't get matched spines and weights, I would order 24 and usually could sort out a dozen that were reasonably well matched.  The other 12?  Tomato stakes and roving arrows.

Dave knows!

Typically the heavier spines would be just slightly heavier but not always. And as stated above you can get a wide variance in weight in the same spine group. I've had a dozen cedar shafts weighing in the 350 grain mark for bare shafts but another dozen in same spine come in at 410. 

Or Red Balau 29 1/2" tapered shafts 70/75# with both ends ready for nocks/points bare shaft at 660 grains.  Fletch, stain and points brings you to around 900 grain arrow.  Grrrr !!!

Sherwood shafts matches the spine within a few #'s and weight within 10 grains.  The ones I have gotten over the years (close to a thousand) are usually within 7-8 grains. 

Unless you buy hand spined, matched within 5# and hand weighed, matched within 10 grains one can expect a 10-15# spine difference in factory spine and then a possible 90-120 grain weight variance in said factory spine.

Quote from: Walt Francis on June 22, 2023, 10:33:20 PM
Sherwood shafts matches the spine within a few #'s and weight within 10 grains.  The ones I have gotten over the years (close to a thousand) are usually within 7-8 grains.

ditto also you can call Carson at Surewood and ask to match your arrow weight.

Quote from: Kelly on June 22, 2023, 11:31:31 PM
Unless you buy hand spined, matched within 5# and hand weighed, matched within 10 grains one can expect a 10-15# spine difference in factory spine and then a possible 90-120 grain weight variance in said factory spine.

Obliviously you get your arrows from the wrong supplier.....just stating the facts.

Quote from: Walt Francis on June 23, 2023, 09:37:47 PM

Quote from: Kelly on June 22, 2023, 11:31:31 PM
Unless you buy hand spined, matched within 5# and hand weighed, matched within 10 grains one can expect a 10-15# spine difference in factory spine and then a possible 90-120 grain weight variance in said factory spine.

Obliviously you get your arrows from the wrong supplier.....just stating the facts.

Read my statement again!

Sure, they can. Always best to weigh each shaft on a grain scale if you want them close. no 2 wood shafts are the same. Part of what is fun about wood, and what the carbon guys cant stand.

Wood will not be the same. Not unless weight matched. Pay the extra for well matched arrows and arrow shafting.

Quote from: Wudstix on June 21, 2023, 10:38:02 PM
Or Red Balau 29 1/2" tapered shafts 70/75# with both ends ready for nocks/points bare shaft at 660 grains.  Fletch, stain and points brings you to around 900 grain arrow.  Grrrr !!!

Is Kevin still making those shafts ?

Wood arrows are all I've ever used in more than 50 years. I won't hunt with anything but wood....and they've never let me down. Going back decades ago, I stocked up on cedars buying them by the hundreds for  myself and growing archers in my family. Bought them by the hundred lot, much sorting... weighing and spine checking. Affordable to me back then at about $50-70 a hundred. The old days some on here surely remember.

Nowadays, your best bet is surewood and wapiti , I know of no others raw shaft suppliers for a dozen matched spine and weight.  Good luck, ain't nothing compares to to a well a well crafted wood arrow.

I think Kevin posted here or the other site that he was back in the saddle.

Yes, I saw he posted here a couple of days ago.