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Started by Shredd, March 04, 2022, 12:01:34 PM

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Shredd

  Any opinions on this.??  Curious as to what all your thoughts are...

Shredd

  And now this...

Shredd

  I got the pics from Face Book...  50# Bow...

Mad Max

I don't think that is a very good design, the strips need to run the whole length
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kennym

Both broke on a glue line, after the break starts, it can do some strange stuff.  :dunno:
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Appalachian Hillbilly

#5
Glue line breaks on edge grain of oily wood?

The one on the left I can see. Nothing runs continously from end to end. All stress is on that glue line. The one on the right??? It looks like it should have held better.

4 point

Do you know what was used for a accent strip? Looks like the glue didn't adhere well to it.

Noah70

Looks like a glue line failure along the accent, but also poor design. The thumb and finger indentations at the top of the grip are aligned rather than slightly offset, the grip is cut deeply and very close to the accent. This results in the least amount of material, thereby the weakest point on the riser right at the centerline, top of the grip and up through the window. 
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buddyb

It looks to me like the sight window is too narrow toward the top of the riser. If you compare that to the smallest part of the grip you can see what I mean, especially on the black one.
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kennym

One other thought, I wonder if those are glass accents?  Epoxy doesn't seem to adhere as tightly to glass as wood.
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OldRawhide42

I would like to know where thay got the limb beds from

Crittergetter

I agree with Kenny. Glass to wood issue is usually related to moisture. Possibly shrinkage after glue up?
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Shredd

#12
  All good points and agree with most of them...

   I personally cringe when I see glue joints like this (ending on the back of the riser) especially when they don't have a fiberglass overlay which would probably help immensely and may help cure this issue...

  With this type of design you are totally relying on the adhesion of the glue to hold that riser together...  I prefer to orient wood grains a glue joints to work with the stresses to make a strong solid riser...  Aesthetics are never a priorty with me... A bow is a tool... I would rather have a plain jane, solid riser built out of one piece of wood vs something pretty with questionable accents in it...  When you are focused on your target the looks of your bow matter very little... The beauty lies in how it shoots and hitting your intended target...

Crooked Stic

A couple of layers of glass on the front may have prevented this. Still a bad design.
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Honest Jon

Stunning aesthetically but perhaps lacking in architectural soundness.  In archery, function MUST follow form!
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onetone

Not to quibble but I think it is the other way around. Function trumps form in bow building, otherwise we all would be sculptors rather than bowyers ... jmo

BO-R

one common denominator looks like the same bowyer built them.

Longcruise

Quote from: onetone on March 05, 2022, 02:54:03 PM
Not to quibble but I think it is the other way around. Function trumps form in bow building, otherwise we all would be sculptors rather than bowyers ... jmo

I think he meant that and just mixed up the wording.

And, it's no doubt true.   We've all seen bows designed and built only with an aesthetic in mind.
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onetone

Ah, you're probably right LC and yeah the balance between utility and aesthetic involves much personal design choice. For sure the eye candy can be taken to far but on the other hand if you make a tool why not make it purdy, eh?

Longcruise

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