https://youtu.be/uvI7k86sCJc

This is what we had in central Florida last Nov. in Citrus WMA that opens for quota archery only. 48.000 acres  overrun by jeeps opening weekend.
I saw this photo scene come down the road right after I left my stand. Counted  well over 20 then five minutes later here comes another 8 form a cross road. No wonder I didn't see any deer till Monday and they were very edgy.

Jeeps and deer generally don't make a good mix.

These days public lands aren't for hunters or being quiet and enjoying the wilderness. Because the majority of the younger generation doesn't hunt.

I love hunting but I also love my jeeps, been driving in Jeep
Since I was 20, 35 years ago   

Citrus WMA?  The 50,000 acres that is is open to hiking, hunting, bird watching and yes FWD trails?  That area?  It's legal Bob, you gotta deal with it. 

I bet they don't raid Ocala ( also state forest ) opening day of GUN season.

I would be aggravated if they came by me as well. But if it's legal there's nothing you can do about it except go deeper.
Can you get farther away from the trails? 50,000 acres is a lot!

I like hunting private land. leasing is good.  Owning is awesome

It's the side by sides here, the National Forest is over run with them, I've quit hunting a couple good areas just to attempt to get away from them.

I have been driving 4WD since 1968....  I now also have a SxS so I can get around due to medical/physical needs.  That being said, I really feel many states are overlapping use to too great an extent.  Most states (Texas excluded) have more state land and Federal land then they can manage/oversee at any one time. 

I dont use trails with my 4WD at all.  I do use those that are open to me a bit with the SxS but am quite selective about when and where.  I dont go riding the woods during hunting season even though I have a state permit to use the SxS as a standing blind.  I am fortunate to have my own land and a good bit of neighbors land to hunt and use the SxS for access.

I fear we are only going to see more of this as pressure from these user groups grows.  I feel for those that are impacted by the misguided allowances of their State and in some cases Federal management use directives.

Just some thoughts.

If they are operating in a legal manner you have no complaint.

Quote from: Yooper-traveler on July 26, 2020, 06:18:35 PM
Citrus WMA?  The 50,000 acres that is is open to hiking, hunting, bird watching and yes FWD trails?  That area?  It's legal Bob, you gotta deal with it.

Maybe...but he can still say it sucks...

Sorry boys, but they are a bane  on the landscape, and just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.  I was a young lad stationed at Nellis AFB in 1974.  I went with two other guys hunting mule deer up in the Shell Creek Range of east central NV.  We camped in a deep narrow valley, and the next day I hiked for 4 hours to get up a steep ridge. 

When I topped out and had this beautiful desert vista to my west there on the  ground was a big oil stain, a used oil filter, and six empty oil cans, accompanied by 4 wheeler tracks everywhere.  I remember how it bummed me out for the whole hunt.  What idiots we often have to share the world with.   

"What idiots we often have to share the world with."

In more ways than one. 

Quote from: BAK on July 27, 2020, 09:14:48 AM
Sorry boys, but they are a bane  on the landscape, and just because you can do something doesn't mean you should do it.  I was a young lad stationed at Nellis AFB in 1974.  I went with two other guys hunting mule deer up in the Shell Creek Range of east central NV.  We camped in a deep narrow valley, and the next day I hiked for 4 hours to get up a steep ridge. 

When I topped out and had this beautiful desert vista to my west there on the  ground was a big oil stain, a used oil filter, and six empty oil cans, accompanied by 4 wheeler tracks everywhere.  I remember how it bummed me out for the whole hunt.  What idiots we often have to share the world with.   

Things have changed a lot since those days.  I would guess 1974 would have been about the time people started becoming more aware of the impact of trash, etc., on the environment.  When I was raised in Las Vegas during the '50's, if you had a load of trash, you drove out into the desert until you found a convenient arroyo and dumped it.  Not sneaking around; just normal.  When Edward Abbey, sort of a cult hero to the counterculture naturalists of those days, published The Monkey Wrench Gang in 1975, he had his protagonist driving around the desert in his Jeep throwing his empty beer cans out the window as he finished drinking them, which nobody thought of as littering in those days, if the term even existed.  This was the same guy who was supposed to be fighting the destruction of the environment by chain sawing down billboards at night, among other pranks.

Its a shame they do a lot of damage to the environment also . Some of my hunting spots along the lake shores became overrun with non resident duck boats when the waterfowl season opened and deer sightings became few from all the shooting . it also pissed off the local waterfowl hunters, the water was the roost and if you chase them off the roost they  were gone for the year .

Laws are being re-written along with new ones on a regular basis in our societies.
But you have to make it know there is a need for a change. Enough voices get heard often enough  then maybe...
Plus some of these Jeepers are anti-hunters. Calling us murderers on their ( OrlandoJeepRides.com ) ) forum page. Depending on what they are doing in the woods could put them in violation of anti-harassment laws.
So far FWC has not responded to my email, so I will be calling them shortly for clarification on the harassment laws .

Quote from: Terry Green on July 27, 2020, 08:35:04 AM

Quote from: Yooper-traveler on July 26, 2020, 06:18:35 PM
Citrus WMA?  The 50,000 acres that is is open to hiking, hunting, bird watching and yes FWD trails?  That area?  It's legal Bob, you gotta deal with it.

Maybe...but he can still say it sucks...

This is what I initially typed Terry then thought about it and changed what I posted.
But it's how I feel as well.  There are plenty of us who don't like the public land being used (read abused) that way.

Quote from: Terry Green on July 27, 2020, 08:35:04 AM

Quote from: Yooper-traveler on July 26, 2020, 06:18:35 PM
Citrus WMA?  The 50,000 acres that is is open to hiking, hunting, bird watching and yes FWD trails?  That area?  It's legal Bob, you gotta deal with it.

Maybe...but he can still say it sucks...

...a very libertarian outlook... 

I see them do a ton of damage in the Chattahoochee National Forest. The damage being done to those mtn roads is staggering.  Luckily none of them step foot into the actual woods.