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Trad vanes fletching method

Started by samr, December 12, 2019, 11:57:07 AM

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samr

I am interested in the Trad vanes.  Is there more than one type?  I like to use 4 fletch, left helical. I have been using 4 inch feathers.  I bought completed arrows.  If I go with Trad vanes, what fletching method works best.  I would like to try them.

Pmringer

I four fletched at 90 degrees with 4" vanes. They flew ok but are a pain to fletch and I wasn't terribly impressed with durability. I am back to feathers. A lot of guys do 105 and 75 degree configuration for shelf clearance.

bucknut

I fletch mine 4" 3/120  with a very hard helical.  I think they shoot as good as feathers. You just have to find the sweet spot orientation wise. I still shoot feathers and keep one of these in the quiver for rain.
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bigbadjon

I shoot blazers and can get all 3 settings from a bitz to fly from an elevated rest and a metal riser. If shooting off the shelf you might also try 2 fletch from the 4 fletch 90 degree setting.
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bucknut

I shoot the trad vanes off the shelf with no issues.
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Miikka

Just made a set with bohning clamp rw helical. Used electric tape as a wrap and loctite super glue. Low cost setup that seems to work great. I dont have any substantial amount of shots in on these but the held up perfect on a short outdoors training session in 25°f temperature.[attachment=1]
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BaldingEagle

I shoot them with a 90 deg spacing - just like my feathers. They shout the same as my feathers and I am shooting off the shelf. I primarily shoot feathers because I like their looks better. I tried the tad vanes so I'd have some arrows ready for rainy weather. Happy so far.
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oz

May be a silly question but gotta ask so I know. 

Are trad vanes, or vanes in general designed with helical direction? 

I have never fletched with vanes, and was given a couple of dozen trad vanes the other day, and some glue and told here try this. 
But I didn't put them on yet because I wasn't sure if they were left or right or if it mattered.

oz

Terry Green

Quote from: oz on December 18, 2019, 01:06:09 PM
May be a silly question but gotta ask so I know. 

Are trad vanes, or vanes in general designed with helical direction? 

I have never fletched with vanes, and was given a couple of dozen trad vanes the other day, and some glue and told here try this. 
But I didn't put them on yet because I wasn't sure if they were left or right or if it mattered.

oz

I use right wing because they keep the point tight at impact...whether targets or animals and don't loosen at impact.... The post on adapters are he weakest link IF they are loose.

If you must use left wing I suggest epoxying the points of the arrows to prevent this weak link.

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oz

Thanks terry,

Currently I only have left wing clamps, but I will use glue on tips to avoid the loosening issues.

thanks again.
oz

Terry Green

Plumber's tape works pretty well also...but not as good as epoxy.
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M60gunner

No, vanes don't have a left or right. Fletch them anyway you want. I haven't tried my Trad Vanes yet. I notice they are much more limber than regular vanes. Should work with helical clamps. Regular vanes depending on maker can be to stiff for helical and not seat fully on shaft. One big reason most shops due a straight fletch with maybe a slight offset.

Terry Green

Quote from: M60gunner on December 18, 2019, 01:34:42 PM
No, vanes don't have a left or right. Fletch them anyway you want. I haven't tried my Trad Vanes yet. I notice they are much more limber than regular vanes. Should work with helical clamps. Regular vanes depending on maker can be to stiff for helical and not seat fully on shaft. One big reason most shops due a straight fletch with maybe a slight offset.

Thanks sir...I don't have any experience with veins....just posting about feathers...nice to know!
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Wheels2

I have tried left and right and find no difference in tips coming loose.
It is the vibration of the arrow during paradox and flight that shakes the tips loose.
I cure that issue with a couple of wraps of dental floss in the threads of the tips and then screw them into place.

I tried the 4" AAE trad vanes and found them to shoot with my feather fletching out to 30 yards.
My only complaint is that they are not very durable.  They tear easily if hit by another arrow.
I fletch them the same as any other arrow.

But they are nice or hunting where you don't have to worry about getting them wet.  For feathers I use dry fly float and it seems to last the whole season.  I used the powder but for the first few shots after treatment I get a puff of the material when I release the arrow.
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Wheels2

There is a company in England that makes shrink wraps for arrows (like the ones sold with vanes attached) rather than the conventional wraps but the shipping is expensive. 
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Miikka

Had my first vane breakage, about 100 shots in per arrow. I was shooting for groups and shot thru one of the vanes. Otherwise seems to be holding up just fine. Tune and fly good bit more quiet than worn out feathers.
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