Interesting idea about letting the arrows pick the bow.  I've been shooting a few shots every evening after work and I find that my carbon arrows can be pretty picky but my cedar arrows just go with the flow. 

I also just traded a bow that was collecting dust for a Jet Warthog.  Its slight string-follow makes the bow a pleasure to shoot and its koa riser isn't hard on the eyes either.




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Nice bow, 

Ultimately I think wood arrows just fly best out of ASL.  I do have a set of carbons that seem to act a lot like wood, just took many brands to find one.

I picked up a Jet Leopard (yew core) recently. I must say I'm impressed with its performance.  Don't have a chrono, but it seems to throw an arrow a tad faster, pound for pound, than my other ASLs.  It shoots a range of carbons nicely (with appropriate up front weights), but my woodies shoot just as well, and they're quieter.

Well, I've been bitten by the bug myself.  Picked up a Great Northern traditional longbow a little while ago and love it.  Just picked this 7 Lakes up from Mike's in stock bows.  I personally think it's one of the coolest Hill type bows I've seen.  Can't wait to get it.  I love going through this whole thread, cool stuff!

Wow Sam. That bow is a beauty. Congrats.


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Sam its funny that you posted that seven lakes as i have been talking to mike about a bow build. What i am thinking wont necessarily be a hill but should have a hill feel to it. Im wanting to do a short night in 60" with a hill style deep narrow grip. That way i have a familiar grip but in a smaller package for a few of my really thick hunting areas.

That is a nice 7 Lakes.  I have thought many times about trying one of his U-Build It kits, but haven't had the courage.  I'm afraid I'd ruin it and end up with a nice little $300 pile of kindling.

Do you all think there are many TRAD guys and gals out there that shoot Hill styled bow in low poundage?  I'm talking like 40-43 pounds.  I ask because when you think of Hill bows, LIGHTWEIGHT isn't something that springs to mind.  I have a Bear Montana in 43 and a Dave Johnson in 45.  I'm curious to know how many others like me are out there enjoying their bows.

All my Hills and Hill style ASL's are 40-45, 68-70" long.

My family shoots ASL from a deadly little custom kids bow, a 14 yr old daughter's, my wife's at 32#, up to 50#. I wouldn't want to get in front of any of them.

I was tuning my elk bow yesterday and I really don't think anything shoots better than a good ASL. Other styles shoot different but not better IMO. It's all about the arrow, and man, I just can't beat a straight grip. I'm going to make a R/D with a straight grip because it's definitely my favorite grip and I want to see how it goes..I just can't seem to grasp a contoured grip consistently where I can be content.

I have a set of skins I think I'll do a 68" ASL snake again but T/D...love that look

Quote from: Overspined on June 30, 2019, 09:54:59 AM
My family shoots ASL from a deadly little custom kids bow, a 14 yr old daughter's, my wife's at 32#, up to 50#. I wouldn't want to get in front of any of them.

I was tuning my elk bow yesterday and I really don't think anything shoots better than a good ASL. Other styles shoot different but not better IMO. It's all about the arrow, and man, I just can't beat a straight grip. I'm going to make a R/D with a straight grip because it's definitely my favorite grip and I want to see how it goes..I just can't seem to grasp a contoured grip consistently where I can be content.

I have a set of skins I think I'll do a 68" ASL snake again but T/D...love that look

I love the straight grip as well. 7 lakes can build a mild r/d with the same grip which is what im going to go with for a brushy area bow.

NALA, one year I had a weight lifting mishap.  Lifting weights to keep in shape so I could shoot my 79 to 96 pound longbows. I had a torn muscle in my arm.  I used a Hill that was marked 36@27, in reality with true weights suspended with a three fingered rope and compared with an accurate bow scale the bow was actually 37.5 pounds at 26".  I used a Dremel tool to sharpen some 140 grain hills and mounted them on 5/16" 40 pound spine Acme cedars. Shooting up from a ravine about 9 feet and about 18 yards to the edge of the corn field above.  The arrow went through the large doe and pierce a corn stalk the second row in.  The doe went down at the next available cover in just a few seconds. That bow has killed other deer as well at  about that same 26.25" draw.  A lighter Hill style bow shooting an arrow that stabilizes quickly weighing 10 to 11 grains per pound with an easy penetrating broadhead like a Hunter's Head, 140 Hill or Grizzly will kill any deer in Iowa with an accurate shot.  Getting the arrow to fly directly behind a sleek and sharp head is the key to good penetration. i have seen it work often for my wife, it is not a stunt. The two things that help this bow shoot what would technically be over spined arrows is the padded fast flight string and the sight window is cut to 1/16" out from center.  I would not suggest that sight window reduction with a heavier longbow, but as longs the edges are rounded with strokes into the glass, it seems safe and has not shown any harm to the bow.  The other thing that may help with quick recovery is to simply stick with 5/16" cedar shafts, the narrower shaft can utilize more of the sight window depth and remove the leather from the side of the sight window. 

Quote from: Overspined on June 30, 2019, 09:54:59 AM
My family shoots ASL from a deadly little custom kids bow, a 14 yr old daughter's, my wife's at 32#, up to 50#. I wouldn't want to get in front of any of them.

I was tuning my elk bow yesterday and I really don't think anything shoots better than a good ASL. Other styles shoot different but not better IMO. It's all about the arrow, and man, I just can't beat a straight grip. I'm going to make a R/D with a straight grip because it's definitely my favorite grip and I want to see how it goes..I just can't seem to grasp a contoured grip consistently where I can be content.

I have a set of skins I think I'll do a 68" ASL snake again but T/D...love that look

.......so says the guy that shoots pink fletchings and hunts in a loincloth.
homebru

I had some company sneak up behind me as I was practicing with my Jet Warthog tonight. Maybe it's a sign that I should use my Jet this hunting season?




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Yep, I'd take that as a sign.

Definitely a sign!   

Quote from: Homebru on June 30, 2019, 08:15:09 PM

Quote from: Overspined on June 30, 2019, 09:54:59 AM
My family shoots ASL from a deadly little custom kids bow, a 14 yr old daughter's, my wife's at 32#, up to 50#. I wouldn't want to get in front of any of them.

I was tuning my elk bow yesterday and I really don't think anything shoots better than a good ASL. Other styles shoot different but not better IMO. It's all about the arrow, and man, I just can't beat a straight grip. I'm going to make a R/D with a straight grip because it's definitely my favorite grip and I want to see how it goes..I just can't seem to grasp a contoured grip consistently where I can be content.

I have a set of skins I think I'll do a 68" ASL snake again but T/D...love that look

.......so says the guy that shoots pink fletchings and hunts in a loincloth.
homebru

Proudly 

Hey everyone, just wanted to report on the new 7 Lakes ASL that I just got yesterday.  Pictures are posted above.  I can't believe how good this bow is.  The craftsmanship is amazing, much better than I even expected, but man does this thing shoot.  I have owned 3 of the big name ASL's and shot just about every other brand there is...excluding a J.D. Berry and this 7 Lakes by far outperforms them....and that's not to say anything bad about the other bows, they were all great bows in their own right.  When I shot the first arrow I couldn't believe how fast the arrow flew to the target and penetration was significantly deeper than my other ASL's, despite them being a few pounds heavier.  I would have sworn I was shooting a heavy R/D hybrid longbow.  Again, I'm not taking anything away from other bows as for the most part they are all great, but this 7 Lakes really impressed me.  I would suggest anyone looking check them out.  This is my first 7 Lakes, but won't be my last!

Quote from: sam barrett on July 09, 2019, 10:39:50 PM
Hey everyone, just wanted to report on the new 7 Lakes ASL that I just got yesterday.  Pictures are posted above.  I can't believe how good this bow is.  The craftsmanship is amazing, much better than I even expected, but man does this thing shoot.  I have owned 3 of the big name ASL's and shot just about every other brand there is...excluding a J.D. Berry and this 7 Lakes by far outperforms them....and that's not to say anything bad about the other bows, they were all great bows in their own right.  When I shot the first arrow I couldn't believe how fast the arrow flew to the target and penetration was significantly deeper than my other ASL's, despite them being a few pounds heavier.  I would have sworn I was shooting a heavy R/D hybrid longbow.  Again, I'm not taking anything away from other bows as for the most part they are all great, but this 7 Lakes really impressed me.  I would suggest anyone looking check them out.  This is my first 7 Lakes, but won't be my last!

sam is yours the string follow or the standard version? Also could you do me a huge favor and get the grip measurements off it? I keep on bouncing between a 7 lakes, mcbroom or a funky combo from howard hill that ive pondered up but cant make up my mind

What is everyone hearing for lead times lately on builders such as northern mist, jd berry and HHA?