Big Jim makes a 3pc takedown too, and does he ever have good wood!   
I've only ever shot Blacktails and Bob Lees. The Bob Lee was a great bow; I got it while waiting 14 months for my Blacktail (15 years ago; wait times are now 6-8months). I think we are in the Golden Era of bowyers. So many craftsmen making beautiful performing bows!

Wes Wallace Mentor 3 piece bows are great shooters! I HIGHLY recommend getting one. 

I would add Cari-Bow to that list as well.  Abe makes a very nice, smooth recurve (as well as his longbows)!

I can't believe no one has mentioned Palmer yet.

I would put Abe Penner's EX model recurves up against any of the above. Abe makes a great bow that is a top of the line performer with good looks and fine craftmanship.

Excellent info everyone and thanks!  A couple names popped up that I hadn't considered, and one or two that I don't remember being around much maybe 12 years ago.

I appreciate all the info!!

Another Wes Wallace Mentor fan here.

Quote from: KentuckyWolf on June 14, 2019, 10:48:41 PM
I would recommend Black Widow but you asked for smooth, accurate, and stable.

Now, if you want smooth, stable, accurate, fast, and tough as nails...I'd recommend Black Widow.

(PSA or PCH....not a fan of the PMA...but that's just me)

Black widows are not fast.

Ok buddy, what ever you say.

Quote from: KentuckyWolf on June 19, 2019, 08:34:12 PM
Ok buddy, what ever you say.

I dont mean any offense, they are great bows: well crafted, good looking, quiet and definitely money well spent. But they are not fast bows. If you want a fast bow get a morrison, border, or blacktail and you will see 200+ fps at 9gpp.

Quote from: Neukdae on June 19, 2019, 09:28:34 PM

Quote from: KentuckyWolf on June 19, 2019, 08:34:12 PM
Ok buddy, what ever you say.

I dont mean any offense, they are great bows: well crafted, good looking, quiet and definitely money well spent. But they are not fast bows. If you want a fast bow get a morrison, border, or blacktail and you will see 200+ fps at 9gpp.

I didn't know speed was everything??

Quote from: Jayrod on June 19, 2019, 09:32:09 PM

Quote from: Neukdae on June 19, 2019, 09:28:34 PM

Quote from: KentuckyWolf on June 19, 2019, 08:34:12 PM
Ok buddy, what ever you say.

I dont mean any offense, they are great bows: well crafted, good looking, quiet and definitely money well spent. But they are not fast bows. If you want a fast bow get a morrison, border, or blacktail and you will see 200+ fps at 9gpp.

I didn't know speed was everything??

Its not. They were just talking about speed.

Just FYI, with 9gpp arrows, you'll void the Blacktail warranty. Plus they're harder to quiet down. Heavier arrows are quieter (in my experience).

Widows are fast! if you are going to make a comment like "Black Widows are not fast" lets hear some experience big shooter.  I currently don't shoot one but have owned 2 of them and will probably have another one day. In my experience as compared to the other bows you mentioned they are just as fast.

another great option not listed is a Wengerd right at the top of the heap with all the big boys.

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My next bow will be a Predator. My son has one in 62" that I love to shoot. It is smooth, accurate, and fast!

  9 gpp, which has or had been AMO  standard for years is going to void someones warranty?

Quote from: bigun on June 20, 2019, 02:42:55 PM
  9 gpp, which has or had been AMO  standard for years is going to void someones warranty?

I had the same question.  In my experience 9 gpp is a conservative weight to shoot out of any bow I've ever had.

Blacktailbow warranty is ok with 9 gpp arrows. At least it is what they advocate on their website.
BW 3 pièces recurve are good reliable bows. Very average speed wise though.

Quote from: Woodpuppy on June 19, 2019, 10:14:19 PM
Just FYI, with 9gpp arrows, you'll void the Blacktail warranty. Plus they're harder to quiet down. Heavier arrows are quieter (in my experience).

This, from the Blacktail website: The Blacktail Warranty requires that you use arrows of at least 8 grains per pound of draw weight.