Quote from: cwegga on March 13, 2019, 02:46:26 PM
Traditional archery is just a shorthand way to say shooting single string bows of various types. People have always upgraded equipment whenever new things became available and metal, sights and various aiming methods have been around for a long time.

Really the wood everything crowd are just bow hipsters... They "liked it before it was cool," wear plaid shirts, have beards, rave about their latest artisinally crafted toy, etc. :D



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There are probably ways to convey your opinion without being insulting.

Quote from: cwegga on March 13, 2019, 02:46:26 PM
Traditional archery is just a shorthand way to say shooting single string bows of various types. People have always upgraded equipment whenever new things became available and metal, sights and various aiming methods have been around for a long time.

Really the wood everything crowd are just bow hipsters... They "liked it before it was cool," wear plaid shirts, have beards, rave about their latest artisinally crafted toy, etc. :D



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Hey hey now!  I wear plaid, recently shaved my beard, have all wood bows and like craft beer! 

My limbs have wood cores... but that is the only wood on my current rig.



I dreesed it up with a sweet camo paint job though.

Definatly not taking over and never will.Your always going to see lots of various sorts of more traditional longbows,hybrids,50s style recurves,60s style recurves selfbows made from wood and glass or all wood.

I think ILF really changed the landscape with metal risers becoming in vogue in recent years.They certainly have their benefits.I did ILF for awhile.Its a cool system thats very versatile for many reasons.

I am all back to one and 2 piece bows mostly now.I like the look,feel,light weight,aesthetics and how they handle.Sure they have more soul.

Its really all comes down to personel choice.Or no choice at all and you shoot anything and everything. 

Quote from: Steelhead on March 13, 2019, 04:57:27 PM
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Its really all comes down to personel choice.Or no choice at all and you shoot anything and everything.

I hate craft beer and can't grow a beard.

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I guess I really never paid attention to what other people were shooting. It really doesn't matter as long as I'm shooting what I want to shoot and enjoying it.

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Quote from: cwegga on March 13, 2019, 02:46:26 PM
Traditional archery is just a shorthand way to say shooting single string bows of various types. People have always upgraded equipment whenever new things became available and metal, sights and various aiming methods have been around for a long time.

Really the wood everything crowd are just bow hipsters... They "liked it before it was cool," wear plaid shirts, have beards, rave about their latest artisinally crafted toy, etc. :D



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Agreed.. No need for the negativity. At 32 I guess I'm a millennial, but most of the wood bow shooting, wool/plaid wearing guys you are trying to scrutinize here don't even know what a hipster is.. That kinda talk can go to the "other" trad site or one of the western forums where a pissing match gets peoples rocks off. 

I wear wool, I where sitka, I wear Kuiu, I where Walmart or on a fancy day Target! Whatever!

Wood bows, arrows and the traditional nostalgia aren't going anywhere.. I feel like the ASL craze is getting bigger, and with social media, the beautiful wood combination bows are taking on even more steam! Form, arrow set ups, clickers, etc may be getting a little more prevalent, but that's just folks wanting to shoot the best that they can, and having access to more knowledge through these social media outlets.

I think that things are advancing from a competitive 3d perspective though, and guys will take whatever advantage they see fit and remain legal in order to have the "edge." Metal risers, plungers, fancy colors, and Olympic style form may become the norm tom some extent in the big shoots.    So be it! I go to shoots to walk a course with buddies and have fun anyway! There are a lot more people in our sport now that are not necessarily trad bowhunters anymore, and are simply competitive archers or weekend warriors that like the advantage of a smaller / less competitive class, and doesn't require a car payment to get involved in. So metal risers, plungers, fancy colors, and Olympic style form are going to be the norm here. 

I personally have never gotten into the metal/ILF, but have friends that love it! I grew up working at an archery store, and went to trad because I got so tired of messing with everyone else's compound BS issues, so the last thing I want is to have to mess with more screws on my bow! Haha no, I guess im just an old soul and love beautiful wood bows and the life they hold within.

To each there own, and just keep loosing a string!

I don't know what the big deal is.  Metal bows were a thing before most people posting here were even born.  Same with sights, elevated rests and pretty much everything else that some people look down on in the name of not being "traditional." 

Quote from: GCook on March 13, 2019, 06:31:57 PM
I hate craft beer and can't grow a beard.

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Yeah, well I can't help with the beard, but when I come down to my place near Pittsburgh I'll bring you some of my beer. It may be too much for you, but I guarantee you won't remember not liking it !

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Quote from: GCook on March 13, 2019, 06:31:57 PM
I hate craft beer and can't grow a beard.

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Yeah, well I can't help with the beard, but when I come down to my place near Pittsburgh I'll bring you some of my beer. It may be too much for you, but I guarantee you won't remember not liking it !

And I'll put you on some pigs!  But my place is near Abilene.

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I recently picked up a metal riser ilf setup to mess around with. While it doesnt have the feel or soul of a wood riser but it does offer many more tuning options and is more stable to shoot. Really it all comes down to what you want out of your shooting. If you want nostalgia or simplicity then by all means shoot a wood bow, but if your chasing tuneability, accuracy or the ability to quickly swap from one draw weight to another for different purposes while not breaking the bank then a metal ilf riser is the way to go.

Quote from: PrimitivePete on March 11, 2019, 05:09:10 PM
And I guess my point is are we losing our passion for the simpler bow, the wood arrows and the acceptance of our limitations of our equipment.

Another way to look at it is more and more bow hunters are losing their passion for over complicated gadgets and are reverting to simpler bows. A metal riser bow with a thin grip feels more "normal" to a convert than a beefy takedown recurve riser, and isn't quite as much of a change.

I remember reading "back in the day" that bows with aluminum limbs were marketed for a time. I even read that somebody bought surplus wings from WWII bombers to make them. Do any of you really old timers recall this, and, did it stir as much controversy over being non-traditional or too techy as we have seen lately?

In the end, a riser, be it metal or wood, is just a device to hold the limbs. The limbs are the heart and soul of a bow and define its performance.

Quote from: Sam McMichael on March 13, 2019, 10:21:11 PM
I remember reading "back in the day" that bows with aluminum limbs were marketed for a time. I even read that somebody bought surplus wings from WWII bombers to make them. Do any of you really old timers recall this, and, did it stir as much controversy over being non-traditional or too techy as we have seen lately?

That would have been Fred Bear himself.   The only controversy really was that the idea ended up not working well as many of them delaminated and had to be replaced.

Quote from: GCook on March 13, 2019, 09:58:45 PM

Quote from: Yooper-traveler on March 13, 2019, 09:09:24 PM

Quote from: GCook on March 13, 2019, 06:31:57 PM
I hate craft beer and can't grow a beard.

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Yeah, well I can't help with the beard, but when I come down to my place near Pittsburgh I'll bring you some of my beer. It may be too much for you, but I guarantee you won't remember not liking it !

And I'll put you on some pigs!  But my place is near Abilene.

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I'm the kind of guy to take you up on that sir! 

Metal seems pretty traditional to me. My first two TD recurves in the mid 70's were metal riser bows. One was a Herters perfection magnum and the other was a Bear B riser. You can argue looks but "traditional? I don't think so.

I came to trad archery from shooting compounds for years.
My idea was to set up the most "BA" trad bow ever....short little thing, multipin tritium "modern" sight from my compound, release aid, carbon arrows, expandable heads....the whole deal.

Basically didn't even try to shoot it with my fingers.

Took me quite a while...but finally I decided to "simplify" my rig....in quotes cause it still wasn't all that simple...lol
Stripped her down and got my self a tab and some woodies.
....That's when it became FUN!

Everyone needs to walk their own path as the OP stated.

My point is..I believe many new trad archers are coming from high tech rigs and it's almost beyond them to think it could actually be fun to shoot without all the hype screwed onto their bows....I knew it was for me at 1st.

We all gotta do what makes us happy....but sometimes trying something you don't think you're going to like can be the 1st step in a new direction that is more fulfilling....but many will never take that risk....and lets face it...wood bows just aren't everyone's cup-o-tea.

my 2¢

I prefer wood bows over metal bows. Last year I traded for a Striker RK 1, while it is a well made bow in its own way, it felt like I was holding a compound. Cold and heartless would be the words that come to mind. I also prefer 5 inch feathers over the short fletching craze.