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I beam riser ?

Started by Forwardhandle, January 12, 2018, 09:15:00 AM

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Forwardhandle

Hi Fellas Im putting my riser material together for a Kennym  bow , Kennym mentioned that I beaming with just wood increases the strength of the riser ,Im assuming that means putting one peace vertical grained & one peace horazontal  grain ? Or a combanation of alternating grains ?  I just want to make sure Im thinking right ?
If you fear failure, you will never try ! But never except it!!

Buemaker

Here is a recurve handle blank with Sonokeling Rosewood with an Ibeam of Bubinga and contrasting Birch veneers.

Buemaker

Finished RD bow with Ibeam. I offset the Ibeam to get its full strength in the cut out sight window
 

Forwardhandle

Verry nice thanks for posting that  I appreciate it  beautifull !
If you fear failure, you will never try ! But never except it!!

No 90 degree grains...  Keep them all length wise...

Mike Mecredy

TGMM Family of the bow
USAF, Retired
A.C.B.C.S.

Roy from Pa


kennym

Nice! love the accents in there!!
Stay sharp, Kenny.

   https://www.kennysarchery.com/

Forwardhandle

Ok at the risk of sounding dense ,but in then pic above it looks like the outer 2 peaces of wood are flat grained  and the center peace is edge grained ?  That would put them 90 deg,s grain wise to each other ,  or em I seeing it wrong ?
If you fear failure, you will never try ! But never except it!!

Buemaker

You are seeing correct. When glued up like that with strong woods like Rosewood and Bubinga I do not think it matters.
The finished bow have an Ibeam of Lignostone and all pieces are flat grain.

Forwardhandle

Ok thanks got it !  Im going to use Mozanbique & rock maple , I recently used Mozanbique on a all wood bow riser that wood is about as dense of wood as I have ever worked Thanks !
If you fear failure, you will never try ! But never except it!!

Bvas

As simple as this topic may seem.....it can get confusing quickly to some(myself included   ;)   ).

Please   :pray:   someone correct me if I'm wrong.

There are four possible grain orientations from best to worst:
-Vertical Flat
-Vertical Edge
-Horizontal Flat
-Horizontal Edge
Some hunt to survive; some survive to hunt

Crooked Stic

I would think all edge grain in main part and ibeam will be stronger. no more than quarter sawn is best.
High on Archery.

Bvas

Stic, are you speaking when looking at side of bow or back to belly.

I should clarify, I was referencing side view.
Some hunt to survive; some survive to hunt

Roy from Pa

Heck it's only a gwass bow....  :)

TradBowyer

don't forget when gluing individual strips of wood together they become homogenous so grain orientation becomes less critical. making an I beam riser is the same concept as actionwood. individual pieces glued together as one is stronger than a single block

kennym

QuoteOriginally posted by TradBowyer:
don't forget when gluing individual strips of wood together they become homogenous so grain orientation becomes less critical. making an I beam riser is the same concept as actionwood. individual pieces glued together as one is stronger than a single block
Yes, you could cut the block in 3 pcs and reverse the center one and increase strength a lot!
Stay sharp, Kenny.

   https://www.kennysarchery.com/

Forwardhandle

Sounds good Kenny I will do it with both peaces , glad I started the thread I have a much better understanding of the concept now ,thanks fellas, I was thinking it had to do with grain orientation prior to the thread !
If you fear failure, you will never try ! But never except it!!

kennym

If you can, make the grain like Bue's outer pcs. Won't hurt if you have a choice, plus shows grain better on sides of riser.
Stay sharp, Kenny.

   https://www.kennysarchery.com/

Buemaker

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