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Japanese inspired. Blackwater Tanto WIP

Started by D.Ellis, January 14, 2014, 01:18:00 AM

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D.Ellis

So it begins.


Building this for a fella I spent some time with on the Blackwater river last year. It will take a while, and I reserve the right to goof up several times(I hope not)   :D  
It will not be a traditional tanto, but I hope to capture the spirit of the style on my way to making a river themed knife.

Started with 7 layers of 1084 and 15n20. Getting hot here.


My photographer hit the wrong button, so missed the spark show during the first weld. I can't fire her, or I'll have to do the dishes myself   :eek:  

Welded 3 times to make sure it took, and drew it out, hot cut and folded to make 14 layers. Actually will look like 13 since the 2 layers of 1084 will become 1 thicker layer.

Here it is getting hot for the second weld.
 

Drawing it out more the handle came loose, so ended my progress for tonight. Good thing too, as my hands were getting tired from gripping the sledge hammer. To be continued............
Darcy   :campfire:
60# GN Lil'Creep Jackknife
67# osage selfbow
62# "Zang Hill" string follow

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Steve Nuckels

Fun indeed!

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akaboomer

I am tuned in. Looking forward to more.

Chris

Doug Campbell

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D.Ellis

still need to weld the handle back on, but here's the chunk as it sits. I did a grind and check and the welds look good so far. Gonna be a few days before I get back to this one.

Darcy   :campfire:
60# GN Lil'Creep Jackknife
67# osage selfbow
62# "Zang Hill" string follow

Bobby Urban


D.Ellis

QuoteOriginally posted by Bobby Urban:
Welds look good - are you using a press?
Nope just my Armstrong power hammer   :knothead:
Darcy
60# GN Lil'Creep Jackknife
67# osage selfbow
62# "Zang Hill" string follow

tomsm44

QuoteOriginally posted by D.Ellis:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by Bobby Urban:
Welds look good - are you using a press?
Nope just my Armstrong power hammer    :knothead:  
Darcy [/b]
I need one of those armstrongs.  Mine is a cheap knock off "armweak" power hammer.  It overheats after just a few blows and rarely hits the same place twice.
Matt Toms

Flatwoods Custom R/D:  64", 47@28
'66 Kodiak: 60", 55@28
Redwing Hunter:  58", 53@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 47@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 42@28
Hoots Recurve:  56", 42@28

D.Ellis

QuoteOriginally posted by tomsm44:
 
quote:
Originally posted by D.Ellis:
 
quote:
Originally posted by Bobby Urban:
Welds look good - are you using a press?
Nope just my Armstrong power hammer     :smileystooges:
Darcy
60# GN Lil'Creep Jackknife
67# osage selfbow
62# "Zang Hill" string follow

tomsm44

Made in  the USA indeed but the components are a mishmash of British, Irish, Scottish, German, and American Indian, with a few parts from random Scandinavian countries thrown in.  To prove it, I have three kids; one with dark brown hair and brown eyes, one with blonde hair and green eyes, and one with red hair and blue eyes.  Maybe the parts just don't match up just right.
Matt Toms

Flatwoods Custom R/D:  64", 47@28
'66 Kodiak: 60", 55@28
Redwing Hunter:  58", 53@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 47@28
Ben Pearson 709 Hunter:  58", 42@28
Hoots Recurve:  56", 42@28

D.Ellis

60# GN Lil'Creep Jackknife
67# osage selfbow
62# "Zang Hill" string follow

Bobby Urban

I stick with my press to set my welds the other one I have is Polish(mostly) My great, great grandparents name coming off the boat was Urbanoviche and I don't even know if I am spelling that correctly.  What I do know is my Polish model gets a lot more cold shuts than the press do to inconsistent pressure in the weld process.  

Darcy - get to working on that billet - I am interested in what it will become.

D.Ellis

Will get back to it soon. I just got the handle welded back on.
I was shooting in a 3d (indoor) shoot this weekend, and I have a few other things on the go. Including a late season doe draw that I need to try and get out for. Also a local bowyer built me a string follow bow blank, so I have a date to go and work on that in his shop this week.   :thumbsup:  

Stay tuned.
Darcy   :campfire:
60# GN Lil'Creep Jackknife
67# osage selfbow
62# "Zang Hill" string follow

D.Ellis

A bit more progress tonight. Drew the bar out and hot cut most of the way thru. I was going to just fold it and weld it again, but I lack the confidence that the weld will turn out that way with no inclusions. So, I will let it cool, grind the surfaces to be welded clean and then flux, reheat, fold and weld. Here's a pic.

 

Darcy    :campfire:
60# GN Lil'Creep Jackknife
67# osage selfbow
62# "Zang Hill" string follow

Ibitengu

Fascinating process!!! Great work! Can't wait to see more.

bculberson

If any you guys every challenge Darcy to an arm wrestle.....
I suggest only trying left-handed!!
70" HHA Tembo takedown 50#
69" bamboo backed hickory 55#

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