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Started by kbaknife, December 05, 2011, 08:50:00 AM

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kbaknife

I had a guy who wanted this knife as his first foray into knife collecting!
He wanted a camp knife - that he would never take camping!
Sort of like a car you'd never drive.      :rolleyes:  
Oh, well, who am I to complain?
So, we made a Crushed and laddered Ws Damascus blade of 1095 and 15N20 with the left over used for the take-down fittings!
A chunk of wood from the desert = Desert Ironwood.
She will now get sent off to our own Scott Teaschner for some type of groovy sheath-type-thing.
 





When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

Lin Rhea

Karl, there seems to be some sort of lines all over your blade and even on the fittings. I like it though.
"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

4est trekker

I'm not sure I could bring myself to use that one, either.    :eek:   I really like the profile and end cap on the handle, and that desert ironwood is stunning.     :thumbsup:
"Walk softly...and carry a bent stick."

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DANA HOLMAN

Very Nice Karl. shines like a new nickle
Dana
"When Satan is knocking at your door,
Simply say,

"Jesus, could you get that for me?"

kbaknife

QuoteOriginally posted by Lin Rhea:
Karl, there seems to be some sort of lines all over your blade and even on the fittings. I like it though.
I tried to sand them off but no matter how deep I went they wouldn't go away!
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

2treks

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United States Navy.
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~ Francis Chan

David Yukon

Holly C@#&!! This is insane! Love it! I would use it! But baby it!
Cheers!

kansas stik man

well one thats awesome but being awesome does not teach me anything lol, what causes the steel to be so dark(the black areas)?  is it a longer acid etch? and with that metal combo what kind of edge retention will you get?  i dont know much about damascus
JD EVANS
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kbaknife

It's been hot-blued, just like a gun barrel.
Quick lesson in Damascus:
Two different steels are used, each one would work quite well, alone, as a knife blade.
Being welded up with another one of similar characteristics does not necessarily make it work better.
But the end result should work as well as either of the two components.
One of the components - in this case the 15N20 - has about 2-3% nickel as part of the alloy.
When all is done and the blade is hardened and tempered, the blade is etched in an acid that literally eats away at the steel. But!! the steel with the 2-3% nickel is impervious to the acid and that acid only eats away at the other one, thus, revealing the pattern.
Now, since the acid literally ate away the vulnerable steel, it actually creates 'highs and lows' on the surface of the blade.
After I hot-blue the blade, it comes out completely black. Then I take 3000 grit sandpaper and with a hard backing, I sand the bluing OFF of the 15N20, since it is "standing" up taller than the 1095.
This, then gives the really strong visual differentiation between the two steels.
Did I make sense?
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

Kevin Evans

Nice job Karl  :thumbsup:  
I assume W's, laddered (how many layers on the W's???)
Good explanation on the Damascus,I have trouble explaining it to people

kbaknife

QuoteOriginally posted by Kevin Evans:
Nice job Karl   :thumbsup:  
I assume W's, laddered (how many layers on the W's???)
I'm pretty sure this is what I did:

I started with a 12 layer billet - 1/4"+ 1095 and multiple layers of 15N20.
Welded, drawn out and re-stacked to 36. Tripled it.
Drew out a ways, turned 90 degrees and crushed the Ws.
Drew that bar out, tripled it, re-stack and weld, drew out, and then either double or triple cut that, I honestly forget, and re-stack and weld.
Drew out to maybe 7/16", forged blade profile, layed out and cut in ladders.
Smashed 'er flat and called it a day.
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

Doug Campbell

Life is wonderful in Montana!!
"BEING CHALLENGED IN LIFE IS INEVITABLE. BEING DEFEATED IS OPTIONAL."
ABS Journeyman Knifesmith

Steve Nuckels

That's beautiful!

Karl, between you and me did you do alittle chopping with it before you sent it to Scott?

Steve
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Potomac Forge

Del Garner

That knife is magnificant and you are a true artist.

kbaknife

QuoteOriginally posted by Steve Nuckels:
That's beautiful!

Karl, between you and me did you do alittle chopping with it before you sent it to Scott?

Steve
--------
Potomac Forge
You bet I did. Right out of the tempering oven with a quick edge on it. I have an osage tree behind my barn I'm gonna get cut down one of these days!
When the last deer disappears into the morning mist,
When the last elk vanishes from the hills,
When the last buffalo falls on the plains,
I will hunt mice for I am a hunter and I must have my freedom.
Chief Joseph

Arrowest

absolutely amazing Karl. You hit this one right out of the park.  The crafsmanship displayed and willingness to share on this site continues to impress.
cheers, Dale

"TGMM Family of the Bow"
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Checkmate Hunter III, 50@28, Bear Kodiak Magnum (70's) 45@28

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Lin

I kinda like em lines, know whut I mean?
"Courageous, untroubled, mocking and violent-that is what Wisdom wants us to be. Wisdom is a woman, and loves only a warrior." - Friedrich Nietzsche

Lin Rhea

"We dont rent pigs." Augustus McCrae
ABS Master Bladesmith
TGMM Family of the Bow
Dwyer Dauntless longbow 50 @ 28
Ben Pearson recurve 50 @ 28
Tall Tines Recurve 47@28
McCullough Griffin longbow 43@28

Scott Teaschner

Don't ever try to be like any body else and don't ever be affraid to take risks. Waylon Jennings
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