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HH bug got me ... Part One!

Started by longbowben, January 07, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

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bicster

I have had the best luck with wood arrows using the spine range of the draw weight of my bow. My HH is 53# at my 26.6" draw length and I am using tail tapered Douglas Fir shafts that were 50-55 spine groups. I have them cut to 28" with 125 grain field points. No matter how much I experiment with different arrow configurations I still wind up building arrows very close to the weight of my draw. Other folks may have a different opinion but I use a couple different methods for tuning and I still have the same results.

Brianlocal3

Muso,
I shoot carbons from my Berry's and I too shoot 3U.
I nock "around" 1/2", the vixen likes just shy of 3/4 and the others between 1/2" and 5/8".
At 30" I'm gonna guess you might need around 175gr up front depending on the shelf cut.  

Personally, to get away from guessing I'd suggest a simplified bare shaft tuning.  I follow Byron Fergusons method of tuning, and in the grand scheme of things it may not be the BEST tune you can get but for myself it is. Also it works for Byron so I'm sure it will work just fine for me.  I can TRY to explain it in full detail for you but honestly I suggest picking up his DVD "tuning for extreme accuracy" . I did a review on it a while ago and it have done absolute wonders for me and my confidence.

My 2 cents
JD Berry Taipan (original) 53@28 62"
Cascade mountain Brush Hawk 53@28 56"

RC

Got my first homemade straight end bow in the oven right now. Its been raining near every evening so I covered up the floor in the living room and got her cooking in the house. My Wife walks by looking at me out of the side of her eye but all is well. Unwrap time at 9:30 this evening.
Black glass ,4 lams of boo and a bubinga riser. We`ll see....RC

jsweka

Hey RC - You better be posting pics over on the Bowyer's Bench as well for all your fellow bowyers to admire too.  Can't wait to see it   :thumbsup:
>>>---->TGMM<----<<<<

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Brianlocal3

JD Berry Taipan (original) 53@28 62"
Cascade mountain Brush Hawk 53@28 56"

Green

Good luck RC.  Hope she turns out to be a great shooter for you.
ASL's, Selfbows, and Wood Arra's
Just because you are passionate about something, doesn't mean you don't suck at it.

Muss03

Thanks for the tips fellas. I talked to Craig at HH Archery and he told me the bow was tillered for split, as most of them are and it may be a little quirky to tune, for a three under shooter. I have noticed that these bows definitely shoot better all around split finger and I wish I could shoot well split (I tried it for several months)  Brian, I have thought about getting Byron Ferguson's DVD actually.

Knawbone

More, better, special when you build it yourself. Looking forward to seeing it RC. Can you have it done by 10:00? I'll be heading to bed shortly after that!   :biglaugh:
HHA 5 lam Cheetah 65" 48@26
HHA W Special 66" 52@26
HHA W Special 68" 56@28
GN Bushbow 64" 56@29
21st Street Chinook 64" 58@28
Kota Prarie Nomad 60" 47@24
You can do a lot of things when you have too W S Butler My Grandfather

normf

Muss03  At your draw length you might be pulling around 45#. I think a 2016 might still be stiff without a little extra  point weight. Your first post said you tried a 2019. You could try a 1916 at that draw weight on a Hill style bow.   Norm
NFetscher

RC

Alrighty. She came out of the form with tight glue lines at the fades and everywhere else. I was a bit worried as I have always used the fire hose method but sold all my bow making stuff maybe 5 years ago. This time I used the inner tube method and heck...it works. I knocked all the boogers off it in the dark outside with my headlight on my head. My shop is an old barn with no power except for a drop cord. I did not want to spend much time on it in the dark just clean it up enough to see if the lines were tight and they were. Thank You Lord.
 I added a tad of backset hoping it would "spring back" to straight or very slight string follow. It has about 1/4" string follow.Thats at the 70" length. When I cut it back to my desired 66" it should be near straight. I`m pumped. Gotta go to the dentist in the morning but after that I`m off the next two days and hope to have this puppy shooting by lunch tomorrow and sprayed Thursday evening. Our deer season comes in on the 15th. I won`t be able to hunt till the 17th but hope to be toting my new "Hill" style bow. If I got arrows that will shoot out of it.I`ll try to post a pic or two tomorrow RC.

mikebiz

Hey RC please keep us updated as you move through the process.  I have the itch to build a Hill-style bow, but I've never built any bow.  I'm nervous about even buying the right materials.  I'm glad to see that your bow is moving in the right direction.  Good luck with the rest of the build.
"...and last of all I leave to you the thrill of life and the joy of youth that throbs a moment in a well bent bow, then leaps forth in the flight of an arrow." - Saxton Pope

Brianlocal3

That's outstanding RC. And I know it's coming and patience is a virtue but I feel you really should skip the dentist and get to the bow !!! LOL.  I'm following this closely
JD Berry Taipan (original) 53@28 62"
Cascade mountain Brush Hawk 53@28 56"

Ric O'Shay

Can't wait to see the post from RC. Hint-Hint....   :D
I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just.   - Thomas Jefferson

Pat B.

Are you taking orders yet, RC ??

Lambow

Looking forward to seeing that bow, Robert!

Next one you build, make it 68 or 69" at the same weight.

You might wind up likeing the longer bow better.

RC

Got her ready for spray tomorrow. I don`t have bow scales but it feels like around 50@27. Bout what I was shooting for I would have been happy a pound or two heavier. I shot it some this evening with a string Pat sent me a while back. Thanks again Pat. It shoots a 2016 with a 175 grain head very good. I`m gonna put a "Tennis" rachet however you spell it grip on it after the finish cures . I`ve found I like the dished grip better than straight or locator so thats what she has. May put some camo paint on the limbs for doe killing. Depends on if the boo dulls some after its sprayed.
 Ya`ll gotta ignore my junk room and Hermon the pig and his buds...RC





Hermon

I wonder if I'm related to the pig.  Looks like some of my family.  
Bow looks good RC.

Mudd

Looks great buddy!!

I'll be watching for some action shots.

God bless,Mudd
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TGMM- Family Of The Bow
Archery isn't something I do, it's who I am!
The road to "Sherwood" makes for an awesome journey.

Hermon


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