HH bug got me ... Part One!

TxAg · June 18, 2013, 05:53:00 PM

just now subscribing to this thread. looks like i have a lot of reading to do.

Nate Steen . · June 18, 2013, 07:13:00 PM

Twofor and Blaino....

Steve Schulz taught me many years ago to make the my strings with really small loops to make them more quiet. It was his dad's and Hill's teaching.....worked well for me for over 20 years. I make them actually really tight, barely sliding down the limb until the string stretches a little, and the loops stretch a little too.

swampthing · June 18, 2013, 07:28:00 PM

Going fast with bamboo and glass. Now to just get rid of that 10 strand fast flight twang. 14 strands of nicely twisted dacron, 4fps gone, but most animals won't be at the shot. Trade offs trade offs.

Mike Walker · June 18, 2013, 07:42:00 PM

Nate,

This sounds great.......a Bigshot Crossover all leather (soon to be available)..........the nylon just don't feel good to my face.I'll be watching for this NEW glove.

Also, glad I'm not the only one that prefers NORMAL size strings and SMALL loops.

No skinny string--padded loops--or double serving for me!

canopyboy · June 18, 2013, 08:22:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Charlie Lamb:
Glad to see this thread back on track talking more technical stuff about Hill bows.

Brianlocal3 · June 18, 2013, 08:28:00 PM

When I first tried my hand at making strings James at JD Berry told me to make my loops small, as you all are saying and that as the string stretches it will fit over the bow to slide down.

It's odd how such a small detail can make such a difference, I pretty much have to force my bottom loop on the first time.

Good tips y'all

And in other exciting news, after 4 years of trying I got a job offer back home in KY so I am moving from the big city (st. Louis) and heading back to the country!!!
I'll be looking for fellow trad archers in western KY

Mudd · June 18, 2013, 08:31:00 PM

Charlie Lamb: "Glad to see this thread back on track talking more technical stuff about Hill bows."

Thems just details Charlie...lol and everyone knows I'm not a detailed oriented kind of guy...lol

OOOOPPPPSSSS!!! Wait a cotton pickin second here... it ain't all about me, is it...lol

God bless,Mudd

PS: To each his own, whatever puts the wind in your sails.

Rossco7002 · June 18, 2013, 08:45:00 PM

My Miller bows have all come with loops that 'barely fit' - same detail for the two used Schulz's..... Must be something in that.

Congrats on the new job Brian!

Ben Maher · June 18, 2013, 09:04:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by R.V.T.B.:
I enjoy shooting my ILF Titans, and have several Bear takedowns that are a joy to shoot as well. But, like a lot of you guys, there is just something special about shooting a "D" longbow. I have hunted exclusively with Howard Hills or Whippenstick Classics for the past two years and shot about 15 deer with heavy Douglas Fir arrows. It is funny, I shoot carbon off of my Titans, aluminum off of my Bears and wood off of my longbows. I make all of my own arrows, carbon, aluminum and wood and for me there is only one broadhead to have on the front end of my arrow... a snuffer.

I shoot a longbow a little different than most I guess, as I came up through the ranks shooting F.I.T.A. 35 years ago. I shoot all of my bows with pretty much the same style...fairly upright, split finger with a tab, and I hold for several seconds at full draw while I build up back tension and pull through the shot.

I generally hunt with a bow quiver, even a Thunder Horn small fry on my longbow. I just like the convienence. I make, use and sell back quivers and that is all I use for targets, roving and chasing small game around.

I know the dudes that have shot with you , and going by their description , it doesn't matter what bow you are shooting , you are a fair hand with a bow ...
but as said elsewhere , shooting a good "minute of deer" group with a Hillstyle bow at 30 yards is a great feeling

Ben Maher · June 18, 2013, 09:05:00 PM

Also , I too am glad that I am not the only one who still enjoys a nice string, well made with a enough strands to let me know I am gripping it , nothing to skinny either !

RC · June 18, 2013, 09:11:00 PM

Howdy fellers, I have a Northern Mist shelton on the way. From what I`ve read on them they are fine bows. Any of you fellers hunt with one ?RC

Ben Maher · June 18, 2013, 09:18:00 PM

Yep ... as finer bow as there is Robert . You'll dig it for sure ... the local pigs ? Probably not so much.

BCWV · June 18, 2013, 09:19:00 PM

Hey RC. I got a Shelton last fall and really like it. I had slow deer season last year and haven't had a chance to take any game with it but it's a sure nuff shooter.

Charlie Lamb · June 19, 2013, 08:55:00 AM

Love the tidbit about the small bowstring loops. That's what's great about this thread.

June 19, 2013, 12:02:00 PM

I came across a young fellow once with a Schulz built bow at a shoot, looking for a bow string from the vendors. He was about to try to put a standard endless recurve string on it. Someone else saw this and yelled "No stop.", which got my attention. While his original string was no good, the man stopped him because he was afraid those big loops would pop off the bow. I have always gone as tight as I could, mostly because it is less work when making strings and I don't like the bottom loop to come off when I am not looking. I wonder if those big loops on standard endless dacrons could pop off during a shot, I am not going to test it to see if it could happen. I had a spare string that fit his bow, right to position of the nocking point, although it had a few more strands than he needed. While am typing this there is a giant centipede on the floor, I think it is staring at me.

two4hooking · June 19, 2013, 12:20:00 PM

Tapered arrows...

How many of you all shoot tapered arrows?

I have started putting a 10 inch nock taper on my arrows and find beneficial attributes to them. The idea is that reducing the mass weight near the end of an arrow helps it recover faster from paradox.

I think this attribute is especially noticed in bows not cut to center like Hill styles.

I noticed by reading the Bob Burton book that most of the vintage Hill arrows in the collections are tapered to some degree.

Austin Brown · June 19, 2013, 01:19:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Brianlocal3:
And in other exciting news, after 4 years of trying I got a job offer back home in KY so I am moving from the big city (st. Louis) and heading back to the country!!!
I'll be looking for fellow trad archers in western KY

Congrats on the new job Brian. How far west in Kentucky are you headed?

Austin Brown · June 19, 2013, 01:21:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by two4hooking:
Tapered arrows...

How many of you all shoot tapered arrows?

I have started putting a 10 inch nock taper on my arrows and find beneficial attributes to them. The idea is that reducing the mass weight near the end of an arrow helps it recover faster from paradox.

I think this attribute is especially noticed in bows not cut to center like Hill styles.

I noticed by reading the Bob Burton book that most of the vintage Hill arrows in the collections are tapered to some degree.

I also have better luck with tapered wood out my Hill style.

R.V.T.B. · June 19, 2013, 02:16:00 PM

I shoot tapered Douglas Fir out of my Hills.

Vesty · June 19, 2013, 03:10:00 PM

Picked up a Two Tracks Echo longbow at Compton's, Saturday. 68" #51@28. Slight string follow and as quiet and dead in the hand on release as I've experienced. If you get a chance to shoot one, do it.