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HH bug got me ... Part One!

Started by longbowben, January 07, 2011, 01:08:00 PM

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Benny Nganabbarru

I used to only use Dacron, but decided to be a bit daring with my latest Hill, and make up a TS1+ string, twelves strands with loops padded. I really like the feel and the silence. Not that it was bad before, but I think it is even better now.
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tradlongbow

This weekend I got out to the range and shoot some 3-D's, It was about 10 tradionalist. We had a good time, so, thought I share some pics. The weather was great around 60-65 degrees then it got into the 70's after lunch.

Darren

Focusing on the shoot  :)  



Darren

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Howard Hill

SunSet Hill, stringfollow, 66" 53@27.5",

Blueridge

i guess I need an education; the only strings I have ever used are b50 on my old Bears and now the Hills and FF and  D97 on my Widows.
not familiar with d02,d10 etc....
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tradlongbow

I have some BCY8125 that I bought last year that I haven't used yet. A fella told me yesterday that Dave Wallace uses the BCY8125 on his bows.

I might just stick with B-50, It's cheap to buy, doesn't damage the bow, and very quiet....

Darren
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Howard Hill

SunSet Hill, stringfollow, 66" 53@27.5",

Wannabe1

That's a beauty of a bow Darren! Thanks for sharing that with us. Wish it was 70 degrees here.   :rolleyes:
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Blue-

Do a search for BCY, they make string material just like Brownell.

Darren
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Howard Hill

SunSet Hill, stringfollow, 66" 53@27.5",

Blueridge

Good pic's Darren, something cool about the longbow at full draw.
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canopyboy

QuoteOriginally posted by tradlongbow:
I might just stick with B-50, It's cheap to buy, doesn't damage the bow, and very quiet....
That's my current thought.  If it's quiet and the arrow goes where it's supposed to, what else matters?
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tradlongbow

Wannabe1-

That's the new bow that I got in January, It's the first bow that was posted with the carmelized limbs and cocobola riser with no lam up the sweep.

I shot with a guy name Tom 2 years ago from Oregon, I forgot his last name, good people though. The weather's nice here, but you have Mountain views, everything here is flat.

Darren
Darren

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Howard Hill

SunSet Hill, stringfollow, 66" 53@27.5",

Wannabe1

I am hoping to get out to the hills again this weekend. I'll post up some pics if the weather cooperates.
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"The Mountains are calling and, I must go!" John Muir

Rob DiStefano

QuoteOriginally posted by canopyboy:
 
QuoteOriginally posted by tradlongbow:
I might just stick with B-50, It's cheap to buy, doesn't damage the bow, and very quiet....
That's my current thought.  If it's quiet and the arrow goes where it's supposed to, what else matters? [/b]
string stretch and elasticity, that's what matters most to me.

string speed?  mass string weight?  could care less.

dacron (polyester = b50, b55) has lots of stretch and creep.  it never ever goes away, 'cept just before it breaks.

hmpe (polyethylene = d'97, d'02, ff. etc) has lots less stretch/creep, therefore the string is far more stable (no changes in brace height before, during and after shooting).

i use less strands of hmpe not for speed, but to better balance a compromise of stretch/creep.  less strands of this stuff is less resistant to stretch/creep than more strands, but significantly more resistant than a wad of dacron all twisted up.  as a by-product, noise levels are less with low strand count strings.

ymmv.
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Blueridge

Thank you Rob. That clears it up for me
Isaiah 1:18-20 Come now let us reason together, says the Lord.

Blueridge

Thank you Rob. That clears it up for me
Isaiah 1:18-20 Come now let us reason together, says the Lord.

tradlongbow

QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
[/qb]
string stretch and elasticity, that's what matters most to me.

string speed?  mass string weight?  could care less.

dacron (polyester = b50, b55) has lots of stretch and creep.  it never ever goes away, 'cept just before it breaks.

hmpe (polyethylene = d'97, d'02, ff. etc) has lots less stretch/creep, therefore the string is far more stable (no changes in brace height before, during and after shooting).

i use less strands of hmpe not for speed, but to better balance a compromise of stretch/creep.  less strands of this stuff is less resistant to stretch/creep than more strands, but significantly more resistant than a wad of dacron all twisted up.  as a by-product, noise levels are less with low strand count strings.

ymmv. [/QB][/QUOTE]


Rob- Very true the brace height is more consistent with hmpe, but if you know your brace height, you could check it from time to time. that's what I used to do. Dacron has worked well for decades before the new stuff came out. Also, Dacron will be less stressful on the bow as well, but I know guys don't keep bows that long anyway    :knothead:    I'm guilty of that. I like dacron on my Hills and wood arrows only, maybe it's that traditional thing.    ;)    

Darren
Darren

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"Archery may not be the sport of all Kings, but Archery is the King of Sports"
Howard Hill

SunSet Hill, stringfollow, 66" 53@27.5",

canopyboy

QuoteOriginally posted by Rob DiStefano:
string stretch and elasticity, that's what matters most to me.

string speed?  mass string weight?  could care less.

dacron (polyester = b50, b55) has lots of stretch and creep.  it never ever goes away, 'cept just before it breaks.

hmpe (polyethylene = d'97, d'02, ff. etc) has lots less stretch/creep, therefore the string is far more stable (no changes in brace height before, during and after shooting).

i use less strands of hmpe not for speed, but to better balance a compromise of stretch/creep.  less strands of this stuff is less resistant to stretch/creep than more strands, but significantly more resistant than a wad of dacron all twisted up.  as a by-product, noise levels are less with low strand count strings.

ymmv.
I'll give you creep.  But I haven't found it to creep enough that I need to check it all that often.  Of course, if you're shooting high draw weight bows, maybe it's more of an issue.

Elasticity is what makes dacron slower and quieter.

But back to my point.  If it's quiet and the arrow goes where I want, what else matters?  

Creep only means I need to make an adjustment if the arrow isn't going where I want.  I find I make adjustments elsewhere more often than I have to tweak my brace height.
TGMM Family of the Bow
Professional Bowhunters Society

"The earth has its music for those who will listen." - Santayana

Rob DiStefano

QuoteOriginally posted by canopyboy:
....
Creep only means I need to make an adjustment if the arrow isn't going where I want.  I find I make adjustments elsewhere more often than I have to tweak my brace height.
by the time you make yer adjustment i'd have killed the dang critter with one well placed arra from my noiseless, hmpe strung, longbow.  :D   :campfire:
IAM ~ The only government I trust is my .45-70

canopyboy

I'm glad you've found what works for you.


      :clapper:
TGMM Family of the Bow
Professional Bowhunters Society

"The earth has its music for those who will listen." - Santayana

Wannabe1

Kenny Cookus's Wesley and Black Bear. I'll let him chime in with specs and such.   :D  Fantastic bows Kenny!   :thumbsup:



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Ben Maher

I like Dacron ... because i have a bunch of it and i am very cheap !
I realy like low stretch and with silencers attached it is my preferred hunting string ...
Oh the choices !

As a side bar ... i had Craig send me a bunch of 66" strings [ 11 in all ] so the delay in strings may be my fault ...  :scared:
" All that is gold does not glitter , not all those who wander are lost "
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Kenny-

What riser wood is on your Wesley, it looks brown? I like it.

Darren
Darren

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"Archery may not be the sport of all Kings, but Archery is the King of Sports"
Howard Hill

SunSet Hill, stringfollow, 66" 53@27.5",

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