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Stanley F. Spencer?

Started by huntersim, January 24, 2009, 02:12:00 PM

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huntersim

OK Wade, one more guess....and only a guess. #6-Roy Case. I'm only guessing Roy Case because up to this point I dont believe you have denied one of his arrows are among the others in the photo.

Thanks again for this Wade. I suspect a lot of people have been able to learn quite a bit. And it's certainly added some perspective to my little book.

Matt

d. ward

Wade-ster old buddy what's say you up the first prize to a free copy of all the broadhead guides you did all together everything signed by you..reading something like to my good friend bowdoc from your bestest buddy Wade ???
I only got that crappy old black and white photo copy of add's and it ai'nt got nothing hardly in it well not much anyhow.
Besides I need the guide so if I find some rare broadheads I can sell them to well you know my good buddy...your bestest buddy bowdoc

Liquid Amber

I'm dong well Wade.  Four years cancer free and still climbing trees.   :)

I have all or most of Wades' broadhead books and they contain more than just broadheads.  A wonderfull source on our history and though I don't collect broadheads, find myself referring to the books on a regular basis.

Wade Phillips

wadde – Sorry, bottom case top row  is not one of Kore's heads. Sorry again but can not consider your statement "That row also may have a Spencer head or two" to be an accurate identification.

Cody – Sorry #1 is not a Howard Hill arrow

Matt - Sorry #6 is not a Roy Case Arrow

Cliff - Glad to hear that you are doing well.

BowDoc – There is no first prize, sorry, this is not a Beauty Pageant...

There are only 5 Roy Case Broadheads, one for correctly identifying each of the five unidentified arrows from the 1930 Lobster Mt Jamboree... Two remain to the correctly identified, 1 & 6  

If you want a set of three books, I'd be happy to swap them to you on a deal for a bow refinish... Provided of course that I would get the refinished bow back by May 1, 2009...

You may not realize it, but just in the "1871-1971" book there is over 5,000 hours of work, that is 2-1/2 man years at 40 hour weeks... Learning everything in that book alone, is the equivalent of earning the college degree, MBH (Master of Broadhead History).

Or here is a better swap, you go pick up that UFO Bear Giant and send it to me to keep, in trade, if it is an original, I will send you the books plus the refinish bow (Kodiak), and you can just keep the bow to refinish, sell or use. Offer not valid for that BowDoc Giant Round Hole...
"Real Sportsmanship is Fair Play" - Art Young

"Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects." - Will Rogers

d. ward

Restoration work for a set of the BH books ? only if you sign them for me.
As for the Giant should I ever get my hands on it..I was kind of thinking of sending my grandson to college with the sale of that one...bd

Novaln1975

This thread cannot end like this ...

Still need to identify 1 and 6...

(1)
(2) Stanley Spencer – Identified when photograph was posted
(3) Earl Ulrich – Identified by Cody with assist from names on Cliff's List of Lobster Mt. Bowmen
(4) Kore Duryee – Identified by Simon with an assist from Matt & BowDoc
(5) Kore Duryee – Identified by BowDoc
(6)

-Simon

Liquid Amber

Here's some of the lesser known attendees.

L.T. Coke
Tom Belshaw
S.B.Hayden
Mrs. Ralph West
J.J. Hensley
J.H. McCaughan
R.N. Underwood
Winnie Kennedy
Mrs. Ullrich
John Stone

L.L. Daily and Lowell Eddy wrecked on the way and had to return home.

Wade Phillips

Sort of figured more Trad Grang members were into collecting old arrows and would be able to easy identify these six arrows used on the 1930 Lobster Mt Jamboree... apparently not many guys are into collecting vintage arrows.

Simon – Yes, the thread can not end this way... so guess we'll have to move it forward...

First, I will disclose the identity of  #1, it is a Grover Gouthier arrow. He was Chet Stevenson's hunting pal. So this is where will stand...

(1) Grover Gouthier – Stumped the entire Traditional History/Collecting Form community...
(2) Stanley Spencer – Identified when photograph was posted
(3) Earl Ulrich – Identified by Cody with assist from names on Cliff's List of Lobster Mt. Bowmen
(4) Kore Duryee – Identified by Simon with an assist from Matt & BowDoc
(5) Kore Duryee – Identified by BowDoc
(6)

Second, I will give you two names for arrow #6, Homer Prouty or Dr. Cathey...

Sorry, no more guessing at this point...

The only identification that is acceptable is not just a name, but you must post a photograph of another Homer Prouty or Dr. Cathey vintage arrow and submit the pedigree of that arrow, then you must make a comparison of that arrow to arrow #6 to prove your identification is correct.

Because of the additional effort, who ever submits the acceptable identification for arrow #6 will receive TWO different Roy Case broadheads.

Hopefully this will generate some interest in vintage arrows...

If not, the identification will conclude with the entire Trad History/Collecting Form community being STUMPED forever...
"Real Sportsmanship is Fair Play" - Art Young

"Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects." - Will Rogers

d. ward

I won't be stumped as you gave away the answer.I feel stupid as I should have know that one.I will keep me comments to myself...I have no arrow to compear it to.But I have delt with 4-5 of his bows over the year.dang dang dang...bd

Novaln1975

Not easy to find pictures when all I have is the net...

Searching for Homer Prouty's arrow... getting closer...



The picture is from 1936 in oregon at the first pope and young shoot.
l-r, they are earl ullrich, paul unger, grover gouthier, ned meyers, russ jones, homer "pop" prouty, john davis, floyd kelly, and ben "b.g." thompson.
the picture was taken by chet stevenson.

-Simon

Wade Phillips

BowDoc - Sorry that you were stumped on Grover Gouthier arrow, lets face everyone else was stumped too. At least you now know what one looks like. The next time a you see some rough old wood arrows at a flea market and pick out a half dozen Grover's arrows, you owe me one for providing you the information.

Simon - Nice photograph, but may prove difficult to make a comparison of that arrow to arrow #6 considering the fletching and cresting is not visible in the photograph ... Keep Searching...
"Real Sportsmanship is Fair Play" - Art Young

"Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects." - Will Rogers

Novaln1975

OK, not enough proof...

This is a pic of a broadhead TG member «Drifter» posted in October 2006. He wanted to know what make it was.



TG member «rhett134» responded 2 months later with this :

«I have about 10 of these points on original cedar
shafts. Have always wondered who made them. Mine
are in the original shipping carton and came from
Homer Prouty Archery supply ,Portland,Oregan. Nov.
26. Dont know what year,The owner passed a long
time ago.»

So, if we compare the shaft color from the above pic with the #6 arrow, could we deduce that it's from the same maker?



Not too convincing, I know...

I did find out that Mr. Prouty made «heavy» bows and was a record holder for distance ...

-Simon

Novaln1975

One quick question

Would the other name be Cathey as in Dr. George A. Cathey rather than Cathy?

-Simon

Wade Phillips

Simon - The broadhead you posted is an Ace from the decade after the Lobster Mt Jamboree.

Sorry you will have to have a photograph of the feathered end of an arrow to compare to #6.

However, you get extra credit for finding the well disguised omitted "e" in Dr. George A. Cathey, so your one incorrect broadhead guess is pardoned, and you are still eligible to identify the #6 arrow.
"Real Sportsmanship is Fair Play" - Art Young

"Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects." - Will Rogers

bowhunterfrompast

Rick Wakeman
UBM Lifetime Member
American Broadhead Collectors Club

Cody Roiter

Wade could number six be an Ande Vail arrow ???
We as archer's must keep it alive by helping others into the sport WE LOVE.

Wade Phillips

Cody - In my February 05, 2009 01:44 PM Post, I stated...

"...I will give you two names for arrow #6, Homer Prouty or Dr. Cathey..."

"Sorry, no more guessing at this point..."

"The only identification that is acceptable is not just a name, but you must post a photograph of another Homer Prouty or Dr. Cathey vintage arrow and submit the pedigree of that arrow, then you must make a comparison of that arrow to arrow #6 to prove your identification is correct."

So now you have two names for arrow #6, you only need to be learn which is the correct name, then present your proof... No more guessing...
"Real Sportsmanship is Fair Play" - Art Young

"Everybody is ignorant, only on different subjects." - Will Rogers

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