collapsing stand next to him to see if his arrow moves forward before or at release a camera would be helpful.

He doesn't own or regularly shoot a longbow and is a good recurve shot he likes longbows but hasn't shot one yet that he's been able to connect with I'm not sure if it's the grip, riser mass weight or what it just seems like it's a form issue but I can't say for sure. The closer to center cut hybrid is probably going to be a starting point when we get to a trad shoot that some different bowyers are attending, if one of these doesn't work out then we'll have to pick apart his form. THANKS guys.

For me I get left arrows if I don't can't enough to get my eyeballs over the arrow. I was switching bows and noticed this between my higher wristed lock your hand in place grip, and my lower handled locator type grip. Easy to stand behind him and make sure he cants the same for some groupings and possible  results. Could be in my case too, that I don't have a significantly dominate eye either. I can shoot most things either hand or throw darts either way. Left hand ball throwing on the other hand......poor

Watch his draw arm elbow, is it inside the string or outside ? If it's outside the string (string side away from shooter), chances are he is collapsing on the shot or plucking.

My 2 cents worth, and that is all it's worth. Being a life long recurve shooter I have had the same problem with longbows. Could be the difference in riser mass. The lighter weight of the longbow riser makes it more of a challenge to achieve good push/pull technique for me. Makes me shoot to the left too. If I really work on it I can bring it back on target. Never liked longbows enough to work that hard on it though.

QuoteOriginally posted by drewsbow:
I,m going to say cut of the shelf as most recurves are cut closer to center than longbows

Bingo!

I shoot strictly longbows. I have one group cut before center, and another group cut to or past center. I prefer the bows cut to or past center, but if I pick one out from the group cut before center, I have to retrain my eye, meanwhile all my arrows are going to the left, until I get dialed in.

Shot in the dark.....he needs to cant the bow more clockwise if he is right handed, to get the arrow more under his eye.