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Masters of the Barebow III question

Started by Okie man, August 21, 2011, 08:25:00 AM

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Okie man

I have watched this video several times to glean all of the information it offers to help improve my shooting.  There is one technique Larry Yien mentions that I can't understand.  He mentions that he uses "flash images" to visualize each part of the shot.  Can someone help me understand this technique?
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zetabow

I think it's about visualizing the shot sequence step as you progress through each step to ingrain the shot sequence in your mind, I imagine best left for traning\\bale work and not when making critical shots in the field.

If I have a tricky tourney shot or feel pressured I sometimes visualize a similar distance\\terrain shot that I shot perfectly, it at least keeps the negative thoughts at bay.  

  :knothead:

TomBow

I have been all over the MOTB III video.  It would be best to ask the man himself but my interpretation is that he's talking about flashing pictures in you mind or thinking of certain key phrases to be used as a sort of mantra to keep your concious mind in the shot sequence. "Picture"--use the correct sight picture "Back Tension"  Feel the proper back tension as you reach anchor and pull through the shot  "Conclusion" picture your string hand coming to rest after pulling through the shot.  Maybe I am wrong but I never have been before!  Just kidding.  As zeta said and I agree, it's for practicing to help ingrain a consistent shot sequence so that when you hit the field shots will be on auto pilot and you can concentrate more on aiming.  
Best of luck,
TomBow
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Okie man

Thanks for the replies.  Those explanations make more sense to me.  I just had not heard the term "flash images" before and it didn't register with me. Thanks again.
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Larry Yien

QuoteOriginally posted by Okie man:
I have watched this video several times to glean all of the information it offers to help improve my shooting.  There is one technique Larry Yien mentions that I can't understand.  He mentions that he uses "flash images" to visualize each part of the shot.  Can someone help me understand this technique?
It's taken me a little while to spot this question but I'm glad I did.  The subject of "flash images" is such a valuable tool in my arsenal of shooting tips and I apologize for not making it more clear in the MBB vol 3 dvd.

One of the shortfalls of having defined shot sequences is that they can be jointed steps rather than a fluid movement.  To help me move through the shot sequence without thinking of each step, I choose certain steps/images that move me through the shot.  For some it might be one image, for others 2 or 3.  It's a neat practice session finding out what images move you through your shot fluidly and efficiently.

The replies above are also very accurate to my concept of flash images.

In the past my favorite flashes were "see, back motion, follow through."  I've also used "anchor, back anchor, follow through."  Lately I've been using "see, feel, trust."  Other archers work on an image and sensation of someone pulling their elbow with a rope, or squeezing their shoulder blades together.

Hope this helps.
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Okie man

Thanks for all the replies. I appreciate the help and I am trying to incorporate this into my practice.
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BobCo 1965

Larry since you are answering questions    :)      :)   ,

Do you find that you have moved from actual sequence steps or reminders in your flashcard technique to positive self image thoughts.

Do you find that your flash card techniques are much like a mindset (how so)?

I very much enjoyed your section of MBB, thanks.

Larry Yien

QuoteOriginally posted by BobCo 1965:
Larry since you are answering questions     :)        :)    ,

Do you find that you have moved from actual sequence steps or reminders in your flashcard technique to positive self image thoughts.

Do you find that your flash card techniques are much like a mindset (how so)?

I very much enjoyed your section of MBB, thanks.
I like your question as you touch on some of the deeper points in my archery.  Yes the positive thoughts are tied to a certain shot sequence and they move me through with a strong confident shot.

My images direct and focus the mind, rather than letting it wander and get in the way of the shot.
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BobCo 1965

Thanks Larry. I am sure to have more questions for you in the future.

Bob

Mo0se

I still laugh at the "flinch" in the outtakes Larry!     :D
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snag

I like this explanation Larry. Yes, to have the mind wonder is a road to errors. Focusing on steps, like jumping (hopefully gracefully) from one rock in a stream to another in order to get to the other side, is a good way to keep our intentions on course. Thank you, David
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