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2 nocking points for 3 under question

Started by Rossco7002, August 19, 2010, 04:30:00 PM

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Rossco7002

If shooting 3 under is it required that you have two nocking points - 1 under and 1 above the arrow?

Thanks,
Ross
HHA Half Breed 52@28
David Miller 'Old Tom' - coming soon
John Schulz American Longbow 65@28
David Miller 'The Expedition' 55@26

Is it required?  No.

Watch these two clips and see if you think it would be helpful.

 http://picasaweb.google.com/mtravis58/AVIs#5440061375576120818

Rossco7002

Point well illustrated. Let's give it a try to see if it tightens up my consistency....
HHA Half Breed 52@28
David Miller 'Old Tom' - coming soon
John Schulz American Longbow 65@28
David Miller 'The Expedition' 55@26

Red Tailed Hawk

I'm drinking from a saucer 'cause my cup has overflowed

TexasTrad

Great clip Jim.  I always shoot a little lower when I add a nock below my arrow.  Now I know why.

Rossco7002

I doubt if it's connected but I've had two string servings unravel since i set up a second nock. Any thoughts?
HHA Half Breed 52@28
David Miller 'Old Tom' - coming soon
John Schulz American Longbow 65@28
David Miller 'The Expedition' 55@26

dragon rider

Are you using metal nock points?  If so tie the lower nock on. That should avoid any cutting that the metal might be doing.
Don't meddle in the affairs of dragons; people are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.

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DBinAlamo

Thanks for the clips Jim, I'll try a nock set below.
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Morrison Cheyenne TD 60" 50@28
Black Widow PSAX 60" 53@28
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Ravenhood

I use a small piece of athletic tape for my under nock, never had a problem.

scriv

For those tying on nocks, BCY makes a special thread for it.  Me, I just use some dental floss and then super glue to harden it.
Shoot strait and have fun!

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Red Tailed Hawk

I added a nock and did find it to help tighten up groups.
I'm drinking from a saucer 'cause my cup has overflowed

ishoot4thrills

Thanks Jim Casto Jr. I watched the video clips and learned that I need to add another nock under my arrow nock. Then, I went outside and shot my bow and I saw an improvement in my consistency right away. I also learned that I can grasp the string right below the bottom nock, instead of up against the arrow nock, and my point on distance is reduced from 27 yards to about 23 yards. That could help for hunting at more ideal ranges.

Thanks!
58" JK Traditions Kanati Longbow
Ten Strand D10 String
Kanati Bow Quiver
35/55 Gold Tip Pink Nugents @ 30"
3 X 5" Feathers
19.9% FOC
49# @ 26.75"
165 FPS @ 10.4 GPP (510 gr. hunting arrow)
171 FPS @ 9.7 GPP (475 gr. 3D arrow)
3 Fingers Under

Johnny UMAA

I'm not sure that this proves anything at this point, IMO.

Two different gloves used and it appears to be two different anchor points and two different releases (though both are 3 under)
Orig. Schafer SilverTip TD Recurve 62" 55#& 60#@29"
Schafer SilverTip TD Longbow FF 64" 50#@29"
Morrison Dakota 64" 43#@28"
Bear Kodiak Hunter 60" 50#@28"

Curious... what is not being proved at this point?

ishoot4thrills

QuoteOriginally posted by Johnny UMAA:
I'm not sure that this proves anything at this point, IMO.

Two different gloves used and it appears to be two different anchor points and two different releases (though both are 3 under)
Looks to me like it proves that the arrow drops down the string at release, even when using different gloves, different releases, and different anchor points. IMO, that's proof enough to me that I should've tried two nocks a long time ago!
58" JK Traditions Kanati Longbow
Ten Strand D10 String
Kanati Bow Quiver
35/55 Gold Tip Pink Nugents @ 30"
3 X 5" Feathers
19.9% FOC
49# @ 26.75"
165 FPS @ 10.4 GPP (510 gr. hunting arrow)
171 FPS @ 9.7 GPP (475 gr. 3D arrow)
3 Fingers Under

GREATBROWNKNOCKEMDOWN

Thanks Mr. Casto,  i tied an extra nock on my three longbows and it has tightened up my groups, it's working well.
Big River 1pcs longbows 60 47@26
Big River 2pcs longbow 62in 50@26
Big River Flatbow 60in 57@26
Dave Ricke Recurve 60in 47@26
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Neosho Archers

I'm glad some of you are finding positive results from the second nock set.

 Years ago I made a string with two less strands so the serving was a tad smaller in diameter.  While shooting in the string I noticed that once in a while I would have an arrow fly high; not every time—just sometimes.  I thought perhaps it was slipping down the narrow serving, so I added another nock set—problem solved.  I've been doing it ever since.  


Good luck to all of you this season.

Steve D

Thanks Jim,as they say  picture is worth a thousand words, especially  when on video!Have a good upcoming season.
Take care.

Larry m

Thanks for posting this Jim. A real eye opener with a quick fix.

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