I'm bare shafting and keep getting an indication of NP too high no matter where the NP is.  I know that a NP too low kicks the shelf showing it too high.  I keep moving and shooting, and moving and shooting, too high, too high, too high.

Anybody know of a way to get an indication of too low?  To me, then it would be a simple matter of moving it up a tad and getting it correct.

Unfortunately, it is not always possible to get a nock low, either because of your form or because of the tiller of the bow.  If you want to see which it is, you can temporarily mount an arrow rest 1/2 - 1" above the shelf, and shoot your bare shaft from the rest.  If it is a tiller problem, you may be able to get a nock low shooting from the arrow rest, when you couldn't shooting from the shelf.

are your arrows overspined???

If your shooting a canted bow it might be an indication of a spine problem. Hap

54 lbs at 29 and the arrows are a deflection of .500 with 125 gr tips.  Bare shafting show the spine good.

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Shooting off the shelf it is unlikely that you will be able to get rid of all the nock high. For a right handed shooter, shooting from the shelf a bit of nock high to the left is normal. The reasons are that shelf and plate prevent the shaft from going in those directions. I start with my nocking point where I know it is a bit to high, like 5/8" then I lower it a 1/16" at a time until the nock high condition starts getting worse and then back it off to the best postion. On the bright side, mine have only varied between 3/8" and 1/2" over numerous bows and 40 years and I think all of that is due to different shaft diameters.

Are you canting the bow when paper tuning? I had a nock high tear I tried to fix for a couple weeks without sucess till a light went on upstairs! When you cant your bow at a 45 degree angle a tear straight up is a spine issue, not a nock point issue. All I did was switch to 150 gr points from 200 gr and I got perfect tears. Felt like a bit of an idiot when I realized that.

Try adding a second nock point below the arrow nock. This will eliminate one variable in your tuning quest.  It's not always necessary but it has been the ticket for me on a few occasions.  Now I shoot two nock points on everything all the time.  I'm 3 under though. Are you?

I'm split and don't cant.

Rick,  My best paper rips are about 3.5 inch and ocur about 3/4 to 7/8 OVER THE SHELF.  A fletch arrow shows a good rip in this area (3/4 to 7/8's).  Seems very high to me.  Odd that bare shafting is about 3.5 bare under fletched.

I have an old bow that shoots a bare shaft like a bullet hole through paper.  So this concerns me.  

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