Broadhead improvements?

ChuckC · July 04, 2017, 06:39:00 PM

Pavan....... Doooo ittttttt !

July 04, 2017, 09:01:00 PM

I have some Hill blank blades, they do not sit very square on the Rib Tec, I would need to make some kind of a very secure jig pattern to make them predictably balanced. I just don't have the tooling to make that happen.

Sam McMichael · July 05, 2017, 06:27:00 PM

A straightforward 2 blade cut on contact head is about as fancy as I need to get. Good design and effective performance.

Gdpolk · July 06, 2017, 04:03:00 PM

I feel older designs in more modern knife steels with more modern manufacturing technology is what will make "better" heads. The geometries and physics that make these work haven't changed and have been studied and perfected pretty darn well. Modern steels can take more abuse making them more durable for when you miss or they hit trees/rocks/dirt on the pass throughs. Modern manufacturing can improve tolerances like concentricy and improve consistency in weight while reducing costs to make them affordable to the masses. End result is old designs with modern steels and tighter manufacturing processes at lower costs...that's a better broadhead.

Terry Green · July 06, 2017, 08:17:00 PM

Wow what a question... yeah I'd like to have a Broadhead that would fix my coffee in the morning before I go hunting ...other than that I'm good

Wheels2 · July 07, 2017, 07:46:00 AM

There is a reason the Bear Razorhead and the various Zwickey heads are still used by so many.

Esau · July 11, 2017, 10:44:00 PM

The Bear Razorhead was the best broadhead ever designed.

That is the only reason we started building and selling broadhead. The company that bought out Bear Archery stopped making it. I shot the razor head for 30 years and it meet all my needs.

Cut on contact
Easy to re-sharpen
Excellent penetration
Bleeder blade that opened the wound channel with out limiting penetration.

So I built it and am now selling it.

Our R-1 is the same broadhead with more total cut surface as an improvement!

Guaranteed 100% if you shot it in a rock send me the head and I will replace it!

How can you go wrong with a guarantee like that and have a broadhead designed by the master of bow hunting????

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=sfp&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=elm&p=red+river+broadhead+video#id=6&vid=5f74474d00b74b0d40d9d03f60f18ad0&action=click

Esau · July 11, 2017, 10:45:00 PM

The Bear Razorhead was the best broadhead ever designed.

That is the only reason we started building and selling broadhead. The company that bought out Bear Archery stopped making it. I shot the razor head for 30 years and it meet all my needs.

Cut on contact
Easy to re-sharpen
Excellent penetration
Bleeder blade that opened the wound channel with out limiting penetration.

So I built it and am now selling it.

Our R-1 is the same broadhead with more total cut surface as an improvement!

Guaranteed 100% if you shot it in a rock send me the head and I will replace it!

How can you go wrong with a guarantee like that and have a broadhead designed by the master of bow hunting????

https://video.search.yahoo.com/yhs/search?fr=sfp&hsimp=yhs-001&hspart=elm&p=red+river+broadhead+video#id=6&vid=5f74474d00b74b0d40d9d03f60f18ad0&action=click

ozy clint · July 12, 2017, 03:34:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Esau:
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All agreed in this industry it is more about the marketing than what actually works.

x2. i swear some designers have read the ashby files and then made a BH that is exactly the opposite of what has been shown to be optimal.

Gehrke145 · July 12, 2017, 03:46:00 AM

Another wide head like the Simmons tree shark!

lt-m-grow · July 12, 2017, 09:45:00 AM

I would like a head that was crazy adjustable by weight. i.e. not changing the arrow or insert.

I hate it when I find a cool broad head that I want to try, because, hey why not. But then you see they only come in specific weight that doesn't match you bow/arrow setup.

TLDR: I want to mess with the head and not the arrow.

dino · July 20, 2017, 08:45:00 AM

The razorcap was probably the best head for the weight versatility. That design with a two blade and three blade versions with the adjustable weight would be cool. A lot could be built off those ferrules.

Michael Arnette · July 20, 2017, 09:12:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Terry Green:
Wow what a question... yeah I'd like to have a Broadhead that would fix my coffee in the morning before I go hunting ...other than that I'm good

Hahahaha

JamesV · July 20, 2017, 11:02:00 AM

Fred Bear hit a home run with the Razorhead and everyone else is still playing catch up.

Orion · July 20, 2017, 11:41:00 AM

Of course Fred's broad head is a take-off on the Zwickey eskimo. Zwickey made broad heads for Bear before he came out with his own. Pretty strong resemblance.

When Fred came out with his head, it almost put Zwickey out of business. The invention and marketing of the judo point saved the company, and Zwickey broadhdeads are again going strong as ever.

DarrinG · July 20, 2017, 12:33:00 PM

After looking at all the different designs and styles of broadheads, and then take into consideration what is a "proven" design for many years, it's hard to top the time-tested Zwickey heads.

Brock · July 20, 2017, 02:01:00 PM

JamesV...if not mistaken Cliff Zwickey made the Black Diamond broahdead back in the day and that is what Fred Bear shot until he started making his own broadheads....which were a copy of the Zwickey Black Diamond.

I believe anything worth shooting has been done in broadheads...the only difference being in metal selection, hardening, finishing, sharpening bevels, etc..... A lot of the olders were carbon steel...held edge good but rusted terribly....softer steel is easier to sharpen but harder to maintain an edge......harder steel holds an edge for long time and can get razor sharp but is hell to sharpen in the field. A good compromise on ease of sharpening, edge retention, durability.....in any design is a must.

Of the ones I see out there today and in recent past....I would say the Zwickey, Ribtek, Grizzly, TuffHead, STOS, ACE, Eclipse for 2-blades and Wensel Woodsman and Grizzly Instinct for 3 blade heads (Snuffers no longer made to where I would recommend though the original Rothaar 160 Snuffers were best 3 blade of the time).....other than deciding on double bevel or single bevel....I dont think a guy can really do better than these heads.

I pretty much think the Silver Flame and those high dollar heads are overkill and hype....that a fella with a Grizzly or Wensel or Tuffhead or similar...sharpened razor sharp on a heavy arrow shot by a proper bow would do the same thing as the German or Alaska Bowhunting $100 heads.

They say the height of custom bows was in the 80s and 90s.....and I think the height of high quality broadheads for glue on, cut on contact, robust designs is now!

ShrtRnd · July 20, 2017, 02:11:00 PM

I like a single bevel design myself & I'm pretty sold on RMS Cutthroats. They are a solid head that I find easy to tune and sharpen.

The new Valkyrie Bloodeagles (screw-in/set weights) and their Jagger System of Broadheaads and Collars/Inserts have my attention. The whole system is pretty pricey though and their screw ins are twice the cost of the RMS Cutthroats.

monterey · July 20, 2017, 07:33:00 PM

Must agree on the cutthroats. I have set them on the counter side by side with the grizzlies at RMSG and the cutthroats have a higher quality grind, IMO. That said, I have a bunch of Ribbies to lose before I buy more broadheads.

Other than the omission of the cutthroats, I'm on board with Brock's list.