Absolutely fantastic.  I liked your website too, very nice.

Chris

This thread is printed off and will go into my flat fold Knapping Notebook, for easy table top reference, as will the one on Arrowheads you plan to do next, and as did one or two from Paleoplanet by other great knappers on slightly different (knapping) subjects. I have a couple of these Notebooks (with printouts of threads on knapping, Cane arrow making, stone point hafting, "nutters", and other subjects of interest to me) and they have been and will be a big help to me when doing/attempting these skills, since my memory doesn't always retain like I wish it would and it is hard to refer to a Table top Computer while working. They also will be of value to someone else someday, I am sure.

I have seen beer bottle bottoms being used for points.  is this even worth the effort? I am just starting to think about knapping, should I learn on stone from the start?

If you aren't worried about getting legal hunting points, beer bottoms work great.  May take some talent/practice to get a workable point with enough width/weight out of one tho.

Great practice material.

One of the best learning stones is obsidian, and other than more impurities, it's just glass, really the same thing as beer bottle bottoms, at least from a flaking perspective.

Of course I'm a newb and should let someone experienced pipe in LOL.

Beer or wine bottles, obsidian, all good.  Check out plate glass dealers in your area.  Ask about their scraps or cut-offs.  If it isn't tempered or safety glass, it'll knap great.

sir_h_c here's a link to making an arrowhead from a beer bottle

http://www.geocities.com/knappersanonymous/bottle.html