HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

ron w · July 21, 2016, 09:09:00 PM

I go back and forth all the time, just takes a few arrows to get back in the game. It's like anything......sometimes I shoot them well, sometimes not so much.

Orion · July 21, 2016, 10:16:00 PM

I donno. I don't find a Hill any more difficult to shoot than any other bow. In fact, I think Hills are among the easiest bows to shoot. They're not my go to bows right now, but I have no trouble picking one off the rack and shooting it as well as any other bow I have.

July 22, 2016, 03:27:00 PM

I have seen it a few times where guys get all excited about a new Hill and very quickly give up. I have a few friends that tried to do some strange crossbred form when going from compounds to longbows. A couple of them argued about draw lengths, drawing on target and trying weird alignment things and then gave up arguing with me and gave the Schulz plan a commitment for a month. Like one said, he could always shoot a deer at 15 yards from a tree stand with a compound, now he does it with a longbow sitting flat on the ground. We went pheasant hunting last year one day. I dug out my .410 and my blaze orange, he showed up with a quiver full of wood arrows, his longbow and an orange stocking cap. I put my gun back in the closet where it belongs , got my yew wood and we went out and each got a pheasant sneak hunting in farm groves.. When people give up too soon, I always wonder what they tried and what kind of technique they used when shooting it.

two4hooking · July 22, 2016, 04:46:00 PM

Schulz - "For the serious Bowhunter, the longbow will bring him to this style or else he will discard it with a curse, and a vow never to touch it again. The longbow demands the style that goes along with it".

Kopper1013 · July 23, 2016, 10:30:00 PM

Hey guys just finished this one:

http://tradgang.com/noncgi/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=125;t=013775

My first hill style I've ever shot and loving it!!!! Hope I can join the club now:-)

ron w · July 24, 2016, 09:06:00 AM

Very nice........

frassettor · August 07, 2016, 05:40:00 PM

I need arrow recommendations for a JD Berry Vixen, 50@ 28
I will be shooting Wood shafts
Thank you

meatCKR · August 08, 2016, 08:22:00 AM

Lot's of variables. Best bet is to get a test kit of Douglas Fir from Surewood Shafts. You can get test kits with 3 arrows for 4 different spine ratings or 4 arrows for 3 different spine ratings. In my opinion, if you know the weight broadhead you will be using, 4 arrows in 3 different spine ratings is the way to go. For a 50 @ 28 bow like yours, I would get 55 - 60, 60 - 65 and 65 - 70 and try them out.

Best of Luck!

Steve

David Mitchell · August 08, 2016, 10:49:00 AM

Just based on my own experience.....if you actually draw 50@28 when you shoot, I would go 45/50, 50/55, and maybe 55/60. I often get better flight when I go a tad lower in spine than marked bow weight--and I shoot arrows that are 29" to the back of the point and 125 grain heads. This is very individual and can vary a lot form person to person.

August 08, 2016, 03:37:00 PM

The Vixen is a quicker bow. Depends of course on bop length and point weight, draw length and the sneaky one, actual release length. A strong release gives the energy of the the total draw length. If your draw is 28" and your arrows are 28.75" and your release is average, 50-55 with 125 grain points. 55-60-65 with heavier points. I get perfect flight with 27"bop with 160 grain heads out of my 53 pound at 26" Morningstar, perfect with 48-53 and 160 heads and 45-50 27" bop with 145 grains with my 50@26 dual shooter. I have a hard release.

Green · August 08, 2016, 03:41:00 PM

frassettor.....I shoot the same bow, draw a true 28", and shoot 50/55 parallel Douglas Fir with 160 grains up front on a 10 strand B55 string. My broadheads and field points impact at the same spot out to 40 yards (haven't shot B'heads beyond that yet). Good luck!

August 08, 2016, 03:54:00 PM

A fast flight will jump spine tolerances a few pounds, it varies with the individual. I missed some stuff about the Morningstar, I can shoot everything from55- 60 spines with 160 grain heads with sure woods and 53-55 Wapiti cedars, both tapered, and not see anything in the flight with any of them. Many bows will shoot a wider tolerance with wood arrows. If your arrows are on the stiff side, you may get an almost impossible to tell laggy shot with a soft release, where as if they are on the light end, you may get an almost an impossible to detect extra bit of of 'S' curve on a harder than normal release. Both ends will still hit the mark. Feathers can be a wonderful thing.

frassettor · August 08, 2016, 06:06:00 PM

Thanks guys I appreciate it

frassettor · August 08, 2016, 06:08:00 PM

If I went to a 55–60 pound spine, could I still use my 200 grizzlies then ?

Ray Lyon · August 08, 2016, 06:39:00 PM

I would say that you probably could use the 55 to 60 pound spine arrows for your 200 grain Grizzly heads. I am using 63 pound spine arrows with my 55 pound northern Mist Shelton with 190 grain Grizzly heads. 29" BOP 28" draw.

August 08, 2016, 07:02:00 PM

I have some 190 Ribtecs, they work with my 55-60s Surewoods and my 60-65 Acme cedars. The 60-65 cedars with 190s weigh the exact same as the Surewoods with 160s, just a coinky dink, but a convenient one. Your results may vary a little, i would start out with a set of test shafts from the supplier, one of the above has to be the right choice.

akbowbender · August 11, 2016, 12:08:00 AM

It was the opening day of the 2016 archery moose season. I was able to spend 10 hours still hunting and posting with my Misty Dawn in one of my favorite spots, but no critters were spotted.

It had been raining, but not a drop fell while I was in the woods. Perfect still hunting conditions. I need to wait until this coming weekend for a couple more full days in the woods. I will be able to get out in the evenings, though, so I should get in a fair amount time in the woods this year.

two4hooking · August 11, 2016, 09:39:00 AM

Good luck. Sweet pic. Love the "camo". Patiently waiting for my season to begin....

neargeezer · August 11, 2016, 11:08:00 AM

Good luck Chuck! A guy that is "supposed" to be retired should get as much time in the woods as he wants.

All the best,
Terry K.

akbowbender · August 11, 2016, 07:57:00 PM

Thanks Greg and Terry.

Just got home from work. I helped my wife with one of her projects, and now it is time to get in the woods. We're having an occational light dizzle. Should be nice and quiet still hunting.

Terry: I'd like to take "our" NM Classic out, but it is a bit light at my draw length. I will use it when I get a chance to hunt Sitka Blacktails.