HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

GregD · June 13, 2015, 09:18:00 AM

Snakebit, I am by no means an expert but I would think you would be unnecessarily giving up performance out of the bow at 7 3/4. Is your Wesley 62"?

Charlie Lamb · June 13, 2015, 11:26:00 AM

I doubt that the high brace would hurt the bow, but you will be much happier with a brace more closely approaching 6".

As a matter of fact I tend to shake my head a little when I hear of brace heights 6 1/2" or more on Hill style bows.

I've never had any problem with mine braced between 5 12" to 6". Howard Hill said the string should "bite" your wrist a little and it takes a low brace to do that.

It also makes an armguard an important accessory.

snakebit40 · June 13, 2015, 12:15:00 PM

Thanks guys.

I also think I'm giving up performance with such a high BH. My bow is a 64". I thought it was weird that the Flemish measures 59 1/2". I HATE the thought of buying a new string but I guess that's what I'll have to do. Thanks for the advice guys, I really appreciate it!

June 13, 2015, 02:23:00 PM

This may be grounds for divorce. I want to order a right hand yew Morningstar, I have for a long time. My wife says the yew that I have is good enough and would not believe anything I said about accuracy and speed. So I tried to prove it with a chronograph and a second opinion. My second opinioner let me down. It seems that his chrono reads all bows the same speed and his comments like, "You should get a new bow and sell me this one, can I borrow it for a while?" made me lose the argument. I still want a yew right hand Morningstar.

Sam McMichael · June 13, 2015, 02:43:00 PM

Pavan, sometimes it is better to just get the bow and rely on forgiveness. That's what I do. When I have tried to discuss anything at all about comparing the performance of this bow style or that bow material with my wife, she takes the position of " a bow is a bow". That's why , when I bought a NM Shelton, last year, I never mentioned it. Also, that's why I have not mentioned the yew Shelton that I ordered at the Howard Hill Classic in Alabama.

June 13, 2015, 03:18:00 PM

You are a brave man, Sam. You have heard the statement about the man that only shoots one bow. One should fear the woman that only shoots one bow.

GregD · June 13, 2015, 03:25:00 PM

Pavan, Yew is ugly, you would hate it. I know you shoot with both hands, do you ever buy dual shelf bows or do you stick to either Rt or Left handed bows only. Just kidding about the yew, maybe if you show her the pic and explain everybody else has one that would help, GoodLuck

Blaino · June 13, 2015, 03:38:00 PM

Hey Snake-
I'm with the other guys on the BH of a hill bow.... Low is the way to go! I like mine right at 6".
Do you know how to make your own strings? If not, then you should learn.

Green · June 14, 2015, 06:59:00 AM

Snake....on a 64" you're definitely wanting a brace no higher than 6 1/4". You're leaving performance on the table where you are. Might want to talk to Pierre about that string and get another one in the works. I build my own, and for a 64" HH bow I'd build a 61" string.

Pavan, tough call, but relative to "a bow is a bow"....if your wife follows this logic, then just tell her "a pair of shoes is a pair of shoes". :D

June 14, 2015, 12:23:00 PM

A pair of shoes is not going to work. I have more things to put on my feet than she does, and mine are two to three times more expensive than her's, but older. Good stuff doesn't wear out. That is kind of the problem with Hill style longbows.

centaur · June 14, 2015, 09:06:00 PM

Pavan, like this one? Yew is hard to dislike, and a Morningstar is, well, not too shabby.

June 14, 2015, 09:46:00 PM

I got two bows back today that I gave away six or seven years ago. A nice little Cheetah and a super slim Big 5. I shot a deer with both of them when they were new. That skinny Big 5 is one of the finest shooting bows that I ever had. Now I don't know what to do.

Mudd · June 15, 2015, 09:21:00 AM

I can tell you what to do Pavan....count your blessings brother...lol

I have given away bows, none of which I would ever expect to return home.

But I have "loaned" out bows that I wanted to return so they could be used for another person getting started but as yet they've never come home nor do I expect they ever will, too many years have passed.

God bless, Mudd

PS: Only one of two guitars that I loaned our youth pastor (10 years ago) ever came back to me...

cmh · June 15, 2015, 11:18:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by pavan:
I got two bows back today that I gave away six or seven years ago. A nice little Cheetah and a super slim Big 5. I shot a deer with both of them when they were new. That skinny Big 5 is one of the finest shooting bows that I ever had. Now I don't know what to do.

Sounds like a real good day when not one but two fine bows make it back home

Ray Lyon · June 15, 2015, 12:11:00 PM

Nothing wrong with a JD Berry Reverse handle longbow!! Here's my Northstar, 45# string follow and one of my 'new' Sweetland Forgewood Supreme cedar arrows. These are vintage arrows and will be used for special occasions only. It hits like a ton of bricks. These arrows were won in the St. Jude's Auction and I couldn't wait to try them out when I received them in the mail on Saturday. The fletched shaft (29.75 inch to BOP)without a point weighed in at 484 grains, so with a 125 grain field point I'm at 609 grains or 13.5 grains per pound. Once I get past 20 yards, she's dipping in hurry, but I like that low tucked behind the shoulder shot.

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Ray Lyon · June 15, 2015, 04:06:00 PM

BTW, I wasn't trying to show off my shooting prowess, but that's an almost new Rhinehart target and those Forgewoods are burying in twice as far as my Microflite's which are no lightweights either, however the skinny shaft along with the weight makes for great penetration.

June 15, 2015, 06:11:00 PM

That's what I need more fordgewoods. I used those in the late 60s to early 70s. I gave my last ones to a relative that hung them on his wall. If I would have kept them they would be gone by now. I went from the fordgewoods to Microflite 12s. After I watched a dowel stuffed Microflite 12 skip across frozen ground after it flew through a buck, I decided that I was playing with overkill for deer and went to lighter faster arrows. You guys sure that is yew in those bows and not some of Mr. Berry's particle board? My yew bows are much darker than that.

Ray Lyon · June 15, 2015, 07:10:00 PM

Pavan
In the early 80's I was shooting an 86# Howard Hill Big Five longbow and Microflite #12 arrows with Zwickey Delta 2 blade heads. Then I went to an Easton XX75 Autumn Orange arrow because I thought they were better. I gave Steve Turay a dozen plus of those #12 Microflite arrows in the mid nineties that I had left and hadnt used in years and I'm sure he felt the same way then as I felt now about getting these Forgewood arrows. He loves Microflite arrows with Pearson Deadheads on the front end.

GregD · June 15, 2015, 08:41:00 PM

Is that why he calls it Home Depot Yew? I thought it was a rare strain found only in his yard.

June 15, 2015, 09:38:00 PM

My first bamboo backed bow was a Home Depot Tennessee red cedar. It smelled real nice in the basement while I was working on it. Two weeks after it was finished it smelled real nice in my back yard, when it blew up.