HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

fmscan · March 28, 2021, 04:16:53 PM

Rob, That arrow looks so good, love the nock and the shape of the fletching, so trad looking....

MnFn · March 30, 2021, 11:05:10 AM

Man, all you guys having fun with your longbows!
With a Northern Mist Ramer, a JD Berry Morningstar, Black Widow MA, and last but certainly not least, a Tall Tines Stickflinger hanging on the wall gathering dust, well it's killing me. I'm trying to work through therapy on my drawing hand but it is moving slow.

I couldn't shoot yet anyway because of the triple bypass but still... please keep the posts coming as it's about my only contact with the trad-world right now.
Gary

fmscan · March 30, 2021, 05:50:01 PM

Gary, you must be going nuts with those great bows in your stable. Hopefully soon you can be out throwing some arrows.

FITTER · March 30, 2021, 10:55:25 PM

These ASL's are terrible!!!! Bought one six weeks or so ago..... had a Tembo deliver late last week and a JD Berry Heritage II that shipped out today..... I'm sick!!!! And I hope there isn't a cure I haven't had this much fun in years

Deno · March 31, 2021, 01:54:54 AM

Highly contageous...shoot some arrows and call the Dr. in the morning....hope ya feel better

Deno

FITTER · March 31, 2021, 11:07:27 AM

Deno that's the problem!!! The more arrows I shoot I then go and buy another one

Rob DiStefano · April 03, 2021, 09:44:18 AM

Quote from: fmscan on March 28, 2021, 04:16:53 PM
Rob, That arrow looks so good, love the nock and the shape of the fletching, so trad looking....

Got my burner set up for it and that's the only feather shape I use for all arrows, no matter what the shaft material (though these dayze I greatly prefer woodies).

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fmscan · April 03, 2021, 08:27:35 PM

Rob, LOVE the look of the fletch, similar to shield but not quite, is there a name to that shape? Your quiver is beautiful too...

FITTER · April 03, 2021, 09:08:03 PM

Great looking feathers love the shape!!!

Rob DiStefano · April 03, 2021, 09:09:16 PM

Quote from: fmscan on April 03, 2021, 08:27:35 PM
Rob, LOVE the look of the fletch, similar to shield but not quite, is there a name to that shape? Your quiver is beautiful too...

Glad you like it. It's just a shape I fancied while bending the cutting wire. I like it lots. I should make a copy and save it for reference.

I'm also working on a straight cut feather shape, more like the early English style, but with a taller front end. I love these kinda cuts on a woodie, very aesthetic and functional.

I really like a side stealth quiver. I find it far more functional than a back quiver and really easy to use - even better to use in conjunction with a bow quiver.

Rob DiStefano · April 05, 2021, 05:48:24 PM

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Do they make a hissy sound in the wind?

Surprisingly, not at all. Absolutely no ziiiiiip !

I think it might be because the points aren't that prominent, as one would find on an olde English war arrow, and are below the full height of the feather. I guess?

A new one finished today - I love using Sharpie pens for cresting

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Rob DiStefano · April 05, 2021, 06:10:20 PM

Quote from: Lori on April 05, 2021, 05:38:58 PM... With Hill with a bunch of quail and rabbits on a bow string by his pick up truck. It was pointed out that his bow had no sight window cut in. I was told that at my much lighter draw that a sight window helps me to shoot stiffer arrows. How is it then that 50 and 55 pound at a 26" draw bows with no sight windows can shoot 27" 55 and 60 pound cedar arrows and get perfect flight 145 grain points? We all checked the new arrows in flight, cannot imagine it could better than that.

For the very most part, the business of arrow spine diminishes as the arrow plate gets cut closer to, or past center. Shooting off one's knuckles will mean that arrow spine selection will be critical. On the other hand, I have a 3pc TD longbow that's cut 1/4" past center and I have little concern over arrow spine and only arrow weight to consider. I've shot good flying arrows out of that bow that were pulled to 29" that were weak 500's with 250 grains up front and they flew like darts. Dittos for 28-1/2" 23/64" Doug Fir woodies that are spined to 80lbs, with 125 grains up front. However, out of a Hill Big Five longbow with its +1/8" arrow plate, those woodies all flew left of the mark with their tails pointing to the right ... as expected.

Orion · April 05, 2021, 07:18:31 PM

Lori. Dob't read those spines so literally. 50-55#@26 inches vs 55-60#@27 is virtually identical. One needs to increase the spine about 5# for every inch of draw length over whatever the bow's specs are. Too, one usually adds a bit of spine for points heavier than 125 grains. Might add another 5# of spine for a 150 grain point, for example, all other things being equal.

Though there probably is one best spine for any particular draw length, bow weight, most of us aren't good enough shots to find it. Luckily, most bows will shoot a range of spines well, particularly overspined arrows. I have no trouble getting good arrow flight out of my cut proud of center ASLs with arrows spines 10-15# heavier than the bow's draw weight at my draw length.

Rob DiStefano · April 05, 2021, 08:10:22 PM

I find the world of woodie spines to be not so exacting, if not downright uniquely specific, sometimes even within a "matched" set. There are Many factors to consider, and it all starts with the bow, where the arrow plate resides with respect to the center of the limbs, and the archer. One could write a book about woodies, and the final sentence would be, "Select a single batch of shafts with as much knowledge as possible, and then test, Test, TEST."

Again, the one clear and present condition will be the location of the arrow plate.

Wilderlife · April 20, 2021, 03:56:52 PM

This thread, along with a lot of other stuff I've looked at over the last 12 months, has contributed to me getting a longbow built. It should be here by Friday, and it was built by Nick Lintern from Norseman bows here in Australia. I'll post some pictures when it gets here.

Rob DiStefano · April 20, 2021, 04:12:35 PM

Quote from: Wilderlife on April 20, 2021, 03:56:52 PM
This thread, along with a lot of other stuff I've looked at over the last 12 months, has contributed to me getting a longbow built. It should be here by Friday, and it was built by Nick Lintern from Norseman bows here in Australia. I'll post some pictures when it gets here.

evgb127 · April 24, 2021, 05:58:33 PM

TTT. Can't wait to see some more pictures on this thread. Any bites lately?

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Wilderlife · April 24, 2021, 06:07:02 PM

This was delivered a few days ago. I'm very excited and am shooting it fairly well for the moment. It takes a bit of adjustment coming to this bow from recurves, and I got staph in my elbow a couple of weeks back so I'm just starting to get my strength back now.

I'll get some better pics shortly, but these will do for now.

Michael Guran · April 24, 2021, 07:12:41 PM

I just received this in a trade last week. Shoots great and it's the perfect weight for my injured shoulder. Kim Sha Traditional

TxSportsman · April 28, 2021, 11:59:34 PM

Just got a new to me JD Berry Northstar. 66" and 58@28". What an absolute sweet shooter. I can't believe how quiet and dead it is. I can't wait to spend some time with it. Not a great shot of the bow but shows the first couple arrows I sent out of her.

I'm already looking for another Berry/Mist/Reverse Handle/String Follow *hint hint anyone*

Updates to follow!

*edit sorry the pic is sideways... posting from my phone.