HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

[neargeezer]

I have to respectfully disagree. The Toelke Super D is an ASL. Their limbs are not deflexed, it's limbs are only reflexed as on any other back set ASL. I laid a straight edge along the limbs of the three I had to prove this to myself. The laminations go straight through the handle and then away from the shooter.

Not meaning to argue, I just think the Toelke's should get credit for their bow.

[pavan]

Naw, it is a very good bow, it is unique design with the bit of whip towards the ends of the limbs when unbraced that give it a bit of a flat loaded tip at brace.  No matter what the term it will store energy different than a real ASL like the superior bows in my collection and probably be more sensitive than my superior bows.  Just kidding, vēvə lä difəˈräns

[longbowman]

While I have killed a few deer with a longbow I have always been a recurve man and my son a Hill man.  I would always mention that his bow seemed to shoot so hard compared to my Bear T.D.  Well, I saw and fell in love with the Hill Legend Stick and got one and man am I glad I did!  That bow shoots so hard and accurate that I am amazed!  It looks great, light as a feather and has turned me into a Hill man!

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[toddster]

Welcome to the HIllhood

[Sam McMichael]

Longbowman, it seems that you have come into the "glorious sun light of brotherhood and co-operation" (to borrow a line from the FFA) now that you have joined the ranks of the Hill shooters. It can easily become an addiction for which there is no need for a cure. It hit me in 2003 when I got my first Hill bow. I hope you will always like your handsome bow.

[pavan]

"glorious sun light of brotherhood and co-operation"  huh?  Okay now for the opening meeting prayer, "I'm a man, I can change if I---- No, that's the wrong forum. Oh yes, the Hill meeting call to order "Swing draw, anchor deep, release"

[Ari_Bonn]

Longbowman, it seems that you have come into the "glorious sun light of brotherhood and co-operation" (to borrow a line from the FFA) now that you have joined the ranks of the Hill shooters. It can easily become an addiction for which there is no need for a cure. It hit me in 2003 when I got my first Hill bow. I hope you will always like your handsome bow.

dark souls reference?

[pavan]

I Wonder, how many Hill shooter die hards have chronographs and what readings they get with them.  I know longbows are not necessarily built for speed, but still, the relative comparison could be interesting, especially for those of us with well under 28" draws.  Some bows do not shoot all that much slower with heavier arrows and some bows shoot a crisp flying arrow with a little less arrow weight with a shorter draw.   An objective decision that can be made for the individual, not one that involves maximum speed at long draws with Hooter Shooters, just to brag about a bow for elusive performance.  Such knowledge can help a shooter in arrow and broad head selection. 

[NotDylan]

Been working on my Hill style shooting lately, one piece at a time.  The split vision aiming finally clicked today and I shot some of the best groups I've done yet.  I still have to pause briefly at anchor for now and I'm still shooting 3 under.  I did try some split finger but immediately had trouble with pulling the arrow away from the riser while drawing, gotta work on that.  Also the point of aim/point of impact shift is way more than I was expecting.   The gaps are huge!  And what little bit of instinctive "memory" I've learned with 3 under is totally wrong now.  Do ASL's work just fine with 3 under?  Haha

[evgb127]

The trouble you are having with the arrow pulling away from the riser is likely due to you not having a deep enough grip.  Go to the Shooting Form section of this site to read a great thread on the topic.  As for shooting three under, no judgment here but it isn't "Hill-style."   If it works for you then great but I find split works better with a swing draw. 


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[evgb127]

Just got something in the mail.  Time for me to brush up on my form.


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[pavan]

I am on my Schulz 6th dvd, I no longer will give them out to people, not one has ever come back.  I got tired of hearing the excuses of why they cannot be returned.  If someone asks me to teach them how to shoot like I do, they must watch this from beginning to end until they can repeat it to me, but they are going to watch it at my house.  If they cannot get through it at least twice and pay attention the whole time, there will be no shooting.  Jerry Hill recently added his take on some of what John describes, but if one does exactly as John teaches it will work for anyone.  Most people try to rush things.  "Howard would actually have us count, one, two, three, four, five, shoot"

[evgb127]

Well, I think I have an addiction. Here is my new forward handle string-follow Big Five.  Cocobolo riser and green glass.





Ordered on December 11th.  Arrived today.

Anyone else get bit recently? 


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[pavan]

String follow reverse, it should have a considerable amount of built in forgiveness. 

[bucknut]

Not much of a poster on this thread, more of just a reader. I know it is a long shot, but if anyone has a Sunset hill that they have grown out of, or know of someone interested in getting rid of one. I am on the hunt of one. RH 50-55# PM me if you have anything. I hope this doesn't violate any rules. I also posted on classifieds but I know that wont reach several in this group.

Thanks, John

[pavan]

You may have a long wait on that one.  Perhaps a new Berry or a Miller would be a more timely consideration.

[bucknut]

Pavan,

A man's gotta have dreams!

[pavan]

Have you ever shot a Sunset?  If you promise not to draw over 27", if you are ever out my way you can shoot my bows.

[pavan]

Sitting in Caseys drinking hot chocolate with two  friends, one received the Big River Hill style, slightly altered in the grip, and the other the Big 5, slightly altered in the grip, but both with Chad strings, they do that irritating iPhone thing nonstop.  One is always reading TG Hill stuff.  Then a compound hunter joins us and starts in on his iPhone, looking at what they were looking at and asks "What makes one longbow better than another, they look all the same to me."  The Big River shooter, declares that maybe some batches are better at one time than others.  Batches?   Then I tried and failed to answer, because in the case of the Big 5, which I did not think fit me at all, a bowstring change turned out to be the great equalizer.  If all it takes is a change in bow strings, really, what makes one longbow better than another?

[Linwood Hines]

Just got something in the mail.  Time for me to brush up on my form.

I know I'm not checking on here as much as i should, but doggone after all of th times I have, I've never noticed this dvd!  I need this help!  How can I get a copy?
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