HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

jeffg · October 22, 2015, 06:25:00 PM

I have been thinking of getting a Miller Old Tom or a Sage. I am just wondering how much performance I would lose between the two. anybody ever have or shoot the two of them.

mcbowguy · October 22, 2015, 07:00:00 PM

Finished a String follow for a young lady today. 64" 33 lbs @ 28". Cocobolo riser and curly maple veneers over bamboo.

October 22, 2015, 07:14:00 PM

Your lucky that we have decided to not sell everything and move to eastern Wyoming, Pat, as much as I love going after turkeys, I would find your flock. I really like that area from that big lake and to that big rock and then south to all those hill with trees. I called James and got my mind straightened out about that bow that should be coming my way next year. I will officially be joining the Heritage clan with a bit of slight materials difference. This next one has me excited as well.

Jack Skinner · October 23, 2015, 09:39:00 AM

Is it just me or are the bowyer's building ASLs taking it up a notch or two. Man-O-Man which one to order next.

jwhitetail · October 23, 2015, 09:50:00 AM

Very nice Mcbowguy. Curly maple is very nice.

Pavan, looking forward to seeing your Heritage.

Ray Lyon · October 23, 2015, 10:21:00 AM

QuoteOriginally posted by Jack Skinner:
Is it just me or are the bowyer's building ASLs taking it up a notch or two. Man-O-Man which one to order next.

Personally, I think it's two fold. One, the bowyers we have out there are doing an incredible job of stepping up the game from plain jane performers to good looking performers. Second, I think that the 'retro' whether James Berry's new Heritage, or the string follow/reverse handle ASL's that have come back to life lately from the 1950's era are part of the equation as well. I had a JD Berry reverse handle string follow that I used to get me by until I got my NM Shelton in June that was a dandy shooter and now I've got a John Schultz 'Natural' coming on Monday that's an all wood string follow bow. I like the 'idea' of the string follow from a nostalgia standpoint as well as I like the way they feel and I don't see a noticeable performance difference for my shooting.

The good ole days are right now for sure with our choices amongst bowyers and the top notch stuff being put out right now. Of course these Howard Hill threads just help market them all a little easier.

October 23, 2015, 03:08:00 PM

Yes Ray, just think how rich we would all be if we worked this hard at selling insurance instead of longbows.

Hermon · October 23, 2015, 06:40:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Ray Lyon:
I had a JD Berry reverse handle string follow that I used to get me by until I got my NM Shelton in June that was a dandy shooter...

I am glad you HAD that bow Ray

Ray Lyon · October 23, 2015, 07:13:00 PM

me too,as it made the wait for my Shelton go quicker!

Ray Lyon · October 26, 2015, 04:05:00 PM

Here's my new baby. A John Schultz 'Granpa' all wood string follow. It came with 4 brand new strings, so I have to set nock point and adjust brace. I saw in one of John's notes to a customer on another site he was recommending a low brace of 5 1/2 on his 'Naturals' bows. We'll see how that unfolds. I did put about 50 arrows through it already before setting a nock point and it's amazing how physically light this bow is. Well behaved in the hand and I'm getting dialed in with it pretty quickly. I saw in his old advertisement he put yew laminations in the Grampa series. It looks like the two center laminations are a redish hue and wasn't sure if that's the case here??

By the way, this bow just says Howard Hill to me!!

Brianlocal3 · October 26, 2015, 04:38:00 PM

Stunning bow!!

Ray Lyon · October 26, 2015, 04:56:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Brianlocal3:
Stunning bow!!

Thanks Brian. For approximately 25 years old, it's aged well. It's one of those 'wow this is just plain fun to shoot bows'. The four strings that the Tradganger included with the bow were all exactly the same and unused. When I got them I asked him about them and he said "I was always afraid to shoot the bow, I was just collecting them". Yeah for me!!!

Brianlocal3 · October 26, 2015, 05:16:00 PM

Lol
Yeah, me and collecting do not go together. I'd shoot it up!!!

Great find

WESTBROOK · October 26, 2015, 05:53:00 PM

Sweet bow Ray!

A non-glass Shulz is the only bow I'm in the market for these days, a lefty would be a real find.

Green · October 26, 2015, 06:03:00 PM

A huge Congrats Ray finding that bow. The Natural and the Miller Sage are truly special bows to shoot......a lot!

JDBerry · October 26, 2015, 07:54:00 PM

Nice shot Ray from a great bow and a fine Archer. ..OE

Ray Lyon · October 26, 2015, 08:27:00 PM

James,
this bow has a classic beauty for sure, and I've looked for the right one for a long long long time(most seem like the were built for a twenty six or twenty seven inch draw and in the sixty to sixty five pound range). That said the most beautiful bow I own is a JD Berry Yahweh that you and your brother built me in the early 1990's. It's not a classic 'Hill' style, yet it's a stunning longbow. This Shultz bow has temporarily satisfied my bow lust,however the Heritage very well may be on the back burner.

Ray Lyon · October 26, 2015, 10:44:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by WESTBROOK:
Sweet bow Ray!

A non-glass Shulz is the only bow I'm in the market for these days, a lefty would be a real find.

Oh Eric. I'm almost afraid to say i saw a lefty on the big auction site a month or two ago. Here I was wishing it was a right hander at the time.

Ray Lyon · October 27, 2015, 07:51:00 AM

I thought I'd put some of the stuff I found elsewhere here for Hill fans to reference:

WESTBROOK · October 27, 2015, 08:18:00 AM

I saw that one Ray...I believe it was quite heavy. All I've seen are too short or 65# and up...and I don't think they are as easy to knock weight off as a glass bow.