HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

[Jim Picarelli]

I reworked a Jerry Hill that a previous owner had put a deep dish grip on it. Made it into a straight grip

[Green]

I'm like Jim.....built up a Jerry Hill grip with Apoxy sculpting epoxy.  Build it up, and rasp/sand it down to your dimensions.

I'm not afraid to take a rasp/scraper/sand paper on one that's too large in areas.  I base those decisions on resale potential though.  With Hill bows, sometimes it's easiest to make use of the classified's.

[Jim Picarelli]

Just picked up this new to me Union Jack. Purple heart riser, yew cores, black glass on back an yew on the belly under clear. 66" 50@28...awesome shooting bow!  

[Green]

I've shot that UJ.....solid performer.  Congrats Jim!

[BIG GAME]

Jim how deep is that grip, I know you said you like 2 1/8

[Jim Picarelli]

Haven't measured it yet but it fits great so I'm guessing 2 1/8-2 1/4"

[mike g]

Mudd, My last Hill is a no shelf, I like shootin off the hand.
   And your 18-1 target looks just like mine, Did your dog chew off the rope handle too.

[bsv]

do you guys wear a glove on the bow hand or is there a small leather tab for the arrow?

[Mudd]

My computer is down but I will try to answer a couple of questions.

Mike I think the neighbor kid and his compound may have done the chewing on my carry rope.

Personally I don't wear glove on my now hand nor do I have or use a "floppy" style rest.

The only time I have or use a glove on my bow hand is when I'm hunting, then I use one of the thin cotton camouflage type.

God bless, Mudd

If a glove is at the right place, it makes a very forgiving arrow rest.

Just for fun, I made up a couple of wood shafts to match my back set model that exactly matches the recommendation from the 3 Rivers calculator for d/r longbow.  No way, I am lucky it did not blow up and eat my hand.  Mine likes arrows 12 to 15 pounds spine over that.  I am not sure how a carbon would react with a bow that is 3/8" out from center, but that is what I am getting with cedar and fir, the perfect arrow flight cannot lie.  For those interested in these, the arrow coming at an increased angle off the undrawn bow can give the illusion that things are off, but the arrow will fly where it is pointed and perhaps a five pound spine drop from a normal asl would be a good place to start and don't be surprised if you find that you can shoot the same arrows out both with just a slight adjustment in the cant angle.

[Cavscout9753]

Pavan, if I'm following you right, I agree. I'm shooting 50-55 POC (doug fir on the way) out of my wesley special: 60# @ 27, I draw 26". The 3 Rivers calc evened out perfect with 160 grain tips. I've never had the numbers match up exactly, but their both at 56.9. I attribute it to the combination of wood arrows being very forgiving and ASLs being seemingly forgiving of a weak shaft. Thats just my experience though. As far as "perfect" flight, I don't worry much about it. Flight is great and my expectations are moderate as its a ASL and wood arrows. I'm still working on grip and release and likely will be until I die so I'm not too hard on myself or my equipment. I don't do well obsessing about things and just enjoy shooting and hunting. On a side note, picked up some Neatsfoot Oil and stole the wifes hair dryer. The back quiver is supple and well protected and as an added bonus its a nice deep brown.

[JDBerry]

BSV, I shoot off my fist, don feel the arrow. my Heritage is 50#@28"  The arrows I use the most are 50# spine, 28"bop,125gr.point.  .. OE

The spine calc puts me at 38+ for a longbow and 39+ for a r/d at 27" bop. I think that the hardness or softness of the release can make a few pounds difference in spine tolerances.  I shot a few 45 with 125 at 27" bop.  My wife said that I was drawing a bit longer than normal right and left handed, those were okay, as were the 47 to 50 with 150 up front, as were the 53 to 54 27" bop arrows with 160.  The arrows that really stack are 56 to 58 Surewoods 27 bop with 160s and four 5" feathers and three 5.5" feathers, and 1918s with 200 grains up front at 27" bop.  When I shoot broadheads I tend to draw until my finger touches the blade, even though that is longer than I normally draw left handed.  As soon as my wife points this iPad at me and starts talking to herself while I am shooting, all kinds of odd things happen.  But it is deer and turkey time, I need to quit messing with stuff.  Last night I tried to call in a little guy just to talk to him and a brother and sister youth hunting teem shot across me and skinned the little guy.   The time we went there before, I was ducking to get out of the path of a group squirrel shooters and almost stepped on a wide 8 pointer.  Time to get to business and stay away from the busy public lands.  That old ragged nontypical is hopefully still around after the beans have been combined, I don't like to hunt when the combines are crowding me.

[Charlie Lamb]

You'd think I would improve a little bit! Spent time with this gentleman back in the summer.
 
 

Charlie, maybe you should put a video of you shooting on the form forum.  I am certain that you could get lots of free advice and critiques.  That pot needs to be stirred now and then.

[Green]

Great picture of you, John, and Wally.  Pretty obvious some good laughs were being had!

[Hermon]

Charlie, the gentleman to your left in that picture looks familiar but I can't figure out who he is?

[Charlie Lamb]

His name is Wally Renner. Retired pastor and one of the nicest guys you are ever likely to meet. He's a close friend of John's.

[Jim Picarelli]

Longbow love