HH BUG GOT ME - Part Two!

[Charlie Lamb]

Years ago, Howard Hill advised in favor of the string follow bow. I find it interesting that so many of this era are finding the wisdom of his advice.

[Charlie Lamb]

Years ago, Howard Hill advised in favor of the string follow bow. I find it interesting that so many of this era are finding the wisdom of his advice.

I have read that and talked with John Schulz about the string follows. It is a bit confusing when looking at the bows that Hill made for himself and taught others to make, like Jerry Hill, they had a considerable back set.  When he set up the HHA company with Ted Ekin, they still had a back set as their only model.  I wonder if that form shape is still the same at HHA today, it is a back set with a nice gentle sweep to it. Not doubting the advice, but it seems that Hill did not always follow his own advice, in favor of a bit more cast perhaps.

[Charlie Lamb]

John Schulz told me personally that Howard fell prey to the quest for speed. That's what led to the back set in his bows.

Of course it didn't affect Howard's accuracy... just us peons.    :D

[Jim Picarelli]

Two of my favorite bows are a string follow Tembo and a string follow Half Breed

[soap creek]

I still own two string follow bows. A third I just sold. I really never noticed much difference in speed. I've never chronographed any of my bows. I'm just going by what I could tell by eye. They do seem a bit smoother drawing. All in all the differences seem subtle to me. My downfall seems to be I like them all. Lol

Speaking of backset or set back. I took out a right hand bow today and could barely shoot basketball groups at 20 yards, a number of them were not even beachball groups.  I got a hitch in my gitty-up.  I gotta find some open sky to shoot.

Fixed my torqueing right hand release problem today, but every time I would draw back my bow and hold while I concentrated on a dead aim with split vision aiming, my mind would think, "This is going to make my fingers get stiff again, I wonder how long the James Berry bow list is?".

[4dogs]

Any word on the Berry shirts?

[centaur]

I talked to James last week, it sounded like maybe next week he will have them. He was looking at about two weeks after he ordered them.

[4dogs]

Thank you

[Gordon Jabben]

"A straight-end longbow that follows the string slightly, with good cast, carries a heavy string, is pleasing to draw, and is comfortable in the hand, can be shot much more accurately under hunting conditions than a sensitive bow.  It also has much more durability."  From Hunting the Hard Way. In his book, Howard shows how to make a lemonwood bow and was written before fiberglass was very common. Since most self bows follow the string, could Howard have meant follows the string slightly as compared to a lot of string follow?

I think he was referring to bows with with recurved tips in comparison. Some of those same bows today would not be recurved enough to be called recurves, but there were some being made that had static and even working recurves in the pre-fiberglass days.  From what I understand about Hill when talking about archery gear, he said exactly what he meant.  Slightly would be slightly and not a bunch.  My first attempt at a shagbark hickory bow, the wood was not dry enough.  After a day hunting that bow followed a lot, the arrow spine requirement would go down the longer the bow was strung.  Pretty sure Hill was not referring to anything like that bow as being a good bow.

[Green]

James and I discussed tweaking the shirts a bit on Monday.  Not sure if the shirt guy can bring it off, but James should know by now.
   

[nineworlds9]

Steve Turay at NM told me the Shelton (SF) only gives up 3-4 fps pound for pound vs the Classic (BS).  I tried both and couldn't tell a difference out to 30 yds.  I prefer the Shelton and have one on order.  What a sweetheart.  

That being said my Hill saga continues.  Sold the 66" Shelton I had in order to acquire a 68" HH Robin Hood 55@28 #50 of 50 from Hawken1911. Couldn't pass it up as its a locator grip which I love AND a dualie!  Can't wait for it to arrive.  I will post lots of pics when it comes.

I have often considered getting a dual shelf, since I go back and forth a lot.  I decided after much experimenting that the slight variances in my tempo and form seem to allow for variances in the bow grips.  All of my right hand bows except one have asymmetrical grips.  It is tempting to try for an asymmetric straight grip on my coming LEFTHAND yew/pinkish I Vixen, but it is a difficult thing to explain and even more difficult to measure and then explain.  Remember, for you old timers, that old black and white Marx Brothers movie where they had a gigantic single shot scene, where all kinds crap was going on at once, and then the opera singer came out and sang, "where is my shirt, I want my shirt, I'm never happy without my shirt."?  Don't mind me, I shot for way too long today, ate way too much prime rib for supper and washed it down with way too much coffee.

[ron w]

I have a dual shelf N.M. Whisper on order. Mine will have the shelves on the same side, so to change left to right just turn it over. Steve said he can keep the bow closer to center that way. I can't wait to get it.........maybe September.

[Hermon]

Ron, will the Bow be tillered even then?  Or positive RH,and negative LH?

[ron w]

Steve said that the Whisper, because of the forward handle, That he makes them symmetrical. The center of the bow is the center of the handle and then tillers it even.......so it's the same right or left.

[CHENRYIV]

I received a phone call from a friend stating that a maiden would be arriving in 3 days for a permanent visit. Now mind you, I didn't inform my wife before hand, for fear that she might not approve.  It's sometimes better to ask forgiveness that approval.  This past Wednesday I came home and found her propped against the door to my man cave.  Ms. Scarlet "Vixen" Berry is here to stay.    

     

   

   

   

   

JD Berry "Vixen"
35th Anniversary Edition #2 of 7
64", 54# @ 25"