Carbon Arrow Insert Adhesive Question - for Recurve

fishrising · February 23, 2007, 05:57:00 PM

Please help...I just received my Carbon express Heritage 350s, full thread RPS inserts and Gold Tip adapter weights. Now, while I am trying to determine what amount of weight I am going to need, how should I secure the RPS inserts to my carbon arrows? What kind of adhesive? I need something that will be secure enough to withstand being pulled out of a target, but will still let remove to alter the weight. Any ideas? And when I finally settle on the "right" amount of weight, what kind of adhesive should I use to "more permanently" secure the inserts in the arrow? Thanks! Ben

BigRonHuntAlot · February 23, 2007, 06:08:00 PM

The best I have heard of is an adhesive for golf shafts. Pete Ward can tell you more about that. I have been using Powerbond for a couple of months and have not had any failures yet, both of these would be for your final glue in due to difficulty in removal. Hope this helps.

houseman · February 23, 2007, 06:42:00 PM

All i ever use is hot melt, never lost a point in a target.

southpawshooter · February 23, 2007, 07:47:00 PM

24hr. flexible epoxy is the best adhesive. The epoxy Ron points out for golf clubs in an excellent choice. Other glues will work but not stand up well to hard shooting, like stumpin'. If you only shoot targets glue choice becomes less critical.

Pete W · February 24, 2007, 01:48:00 AM

"If you only shoot targets glue choice becomes less critical."
It may be less critical to you but I hate breaking shafts on some other shooters left behind point and insert.

Do it right, use 24 hr flexible eopxy.
Golf works "shafting epoxy" is great and available at any glof pro shop. It is used for golf club heads to carbon shafts.
You can cut the shaft from the nock end and never need to pull inserts.

Hot melts fail miserably. There are all to many that have had this experience , yet we still hear some one saying it is good. Good grief, listen to the numbers, those that shoot a lot can tell you what has failed. If someone says thin ice held him would you go on it ? If hot melt was good it would be used by the manufacturers .

mparks · February 24, 2007, 07:29:00 AM

How is he supposed to get the point back out to adjusts the weight if it's epoxied in?

I'm using hot melt while I find the right weight. When I'm all set, I'll clean the hot melt out the best I can and then epoxy the inserts in. A .270 brass brush is supposed to fit the inside of the shaft and what da ya know, I got a .270.

ranger 3 · February 24, 2007, 07:50:00 AM

Quick Stick from Kustom King is the best I have found. It is like hot melt but it is for all shafts It is heat reversible and I have never lost a point. One cake of it will last a long time.

Howard

fishrising · February 25, 2007, 05:18:00 PM

Thanks all!

Jason R. Wesbrock · February 25, 2007, 05:36:00 PM

QuoteOriginally posted by Pete W:
"If you only shoot targets glue choice becomes less critical."
It may be less critical to you but I hate breaking shafts on some other shooters left behind point and insert.

Hot melts fail miserably. There are all to many that have had this experience , yet we still hear some one saying it is good. Good grief, listen to the numbers, those that shoot a lot can tell you what has failed.

Well...

I shoot anywhere from 300-800 arrows per week, and that's a conservative estimate. I've been using carbons almost exclusively for seven years now. I've also been using Ferr-L-Tite to glue inserts that entire time. With the exception of some Gold Tip shats I tried back in 2001 (which didn't fit the inserts correctly), I've never...not even once...had an insert pull out. And that includes broadheads shot into frozen McKenzie targets.

Shawn Leonard · February 25, 2007, 06:11:00 PM

Yup, what Jason said, and the 24 hour epoxy works well also. I have used 5 minute epoxy and it is too brittle. All mentioned remove with heat! Remember to clean the inside of the shaft with some alcohol and ya can rough it up a bit with a round file as well. Shawn

Bob Barnes · February 25, 2007, 06:25:00 PM

I'd like to hijack this thread for a question that relates... I just got a dozen GT 3555s and ordered the 50g brass inserts that are made to fit them...I noticed that the brass inserts do not fit tight like the stock aluminum inserts...? Is this the norm?
thanks in advance.

Bob

Shawn Leonard · February 25, 2007, 06:34:00 PM

Bob, they are a little easy to slide in but should not be sloppy. Shawn

Bob Barnes · February 25, 2007, 07:51:00 PM

thanks. They slide right in where you have to tap the stock ones in a bit...I'm sure glue will make them tight.

thanks again.
Bob