Fixed crawl with wood bow?

[Terry Green]

My fingers are always on the string at the exact same place.Also so therefore I don't get what you're saying about fixed crawl. I've been charged four times with witnesses. 

[Maclean]

I didn't get it either until I watched Jason Wesbrock's segment in Masters of the Barebow 5. That's when the lightbulb went on for me.
And I'm with ya on that not getting charged thing.   

[Terry Green]

Okay. So I'm doing this some thought. So what you're saying is you have a fixed position on the string that is always the same and never deviates, and your point on is 22 yds, is that correct?

[Maclean]

Yessir. And your point on distance can be set at whatever yardage you prefer.

[Terry Green]

Thanks for the clarification.I have no idea what mt point on is. I do know that I shot groundhogs at fifty to sixty five yards with doug campbell in montana with a borrowed bow from jerry pierce one of his Choctaw recurves.  I also had no idea how far my antelope was until after I shot it. If someone would have tapped me on my shoulder and told me how far it was.I would have never shot.  So again.I have no clue what my point only is I shoot totally instinctive period. However, there is a guy in my town that claims  instinctive is ridiculous.However he doesn't kill anything  but time. He just wants to be an internet guru, basically a false profit.

[Ryan Rothhaar]

People been string walking for a llooonnggg time. With and without visual vs "feeling" references on the string. No magic to it, no compatibility issues with what material a bow is made from. You just gotta either shoot known distances or be really good at range estimation.

I shoot short enough distances that shooting "by feel" works well enough for me.  Played around 3 under point on about 35 years ago a little bit and didn't like it myself.  Been killing stuff this way for a long time and will continue to.

I would caution new guys to not get lost into paralysis by analysis.....ain't many folks at all.....VERY FEW...that can shoot "the difference in performance" in the equipment.  Frankly I've personally never met one.

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[Terry Green]

Ryan, isn't there a difference between string walking and a fixed crawl?

I would also say that I am good at estimating distances instinctively without
Conscious thought as obviously it has worked for me for years.... also in basketball,  tennis,  ping pong, football etc.

The javalina that I killed with your dad's 140 snuffer while he was trotting coming out of the Bush into the wide open, I have no idea how far away he was. All I know is the snuffer put him to sleep.

[Ryan Rothhaar]

Hey Terry, I don't know the current neo-trad definitions    In my mind gripping the string away from (under) the nocking point to move your point on closer is string walking...I guess true string walking involves different distances under the nock for different range point ons....isn't a "fixed crawl" just having a cue on the string like an extra nocking point at the single "string walk position" that you want for a single point on distance?

Regardless of definition the effect on the tiller etc is the same whether a guy is actively walking the string or just using a single fixed "walk", I'd think.


R

[Wudstix]

Like many I use "Point and Shoot" method.  I am fully certain that all my bows can shoot far better than I can.  So, I just keep at it until everything works out.

[Terry Green]

My bad guys, I had fixed crawl as string walking.  I get it now.

It still wouldn't work for my hunting style as I may have to reverse can't and I wouldn't want my point on to be anywhere that close in yardage as I shoot much further than 22 yards  often and I wouldn't want the arrow blocking my target.

Once again, sorry for my confusion.   

[bama]

I shoot "instinctively" on 3D courses and when stump shooting and hunting.   I use a fixed crawl and aim with point when shooting 20 yard bullseye targets.   For me the fixed crawl at a constant 20 yard range produces tighter groups