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Single Bevel Options?

Started by Hunter74, December 19, 2022, 07:44:41 AM

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Hunter74

I have looked at them Vandieman heads and like the looks of them for sure. My two hang ups, which are fairly minor, is they seem to be hard to get ahold of and out of stock a lot and 225 is sort of an odd weight. I'm sure I can find 225 grain field points but I don't see them regularly.

Right now I'm liking the Razorhead dimensions and design but man I hate that it has a screw on ferrule and not one solid piece.

Another caveat for me is I'm sort of stuck at left bevel. I anchor with a feather to nose touch and I need to run left wing with the tail of the feathers curved up for this to work well.

KAZ

If you Google Lusk Archery Adventures, there's a guy from Iowa that has tested hundreds of heads which may be helpful for you. Virtually all of the heads being discussed have been tested including the Vandieman.

The tests are probably not perfect in sorting out Animal lethality but you can see how they stack up on a host of very important integrity & performance characteristics. :campfire:

5deer

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Roger Norris

Following this thread and looking up the recommendations on line....so many of them are no longer the 3:1 ratio that the original single bevel heads were. Why is that?
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KAZ

Quote from: Roger Norris on December 24, 2022, 06:36:46 PM
Following this thread and looking up the recommendations on line....so many of them are no longer the 3:1 ratio that the original single bevel heads were. Why is that?

I started with the 3:1 Single bevel idea and I ran into tip curl and tip damage plus they were mostly narrow cut. I gravitated to wider cut for more trauma and shorter for more structural integrity. I've had no issue with penetration on any of them.

The VPA 3 Blade 250 grain 1-1/4" cut are fairly long and I like them a lot. No penetration issue and structurally sound, big hole. That's my two cents...

toddster

What Chuck Jones said!  I have used many broadheads like many of you.  I used Grizzly for longtime.  But, I have had my best results with Tuffhead broadheads for me.  I have a few that has taken 3 or 4 deer with complete pass throughs and watch them drop.  Not promoting them, I still carry my old favorite ACE in my quiver too, but for my 55# bow I have noticed a difference.

5deer

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tzolk

Here's some size reference for you. The Ironwills are 150 grain. Double and single bevel with bleeders. They are SHARP!!!  The Abowyer brown bear is 175 gr without insert and the bonehead is 140gr without insert. I've killed with the two Abowyers but not the new Ironwills.
64" Toelke SSLR
64" Toelke Whip SL
68" Toelke Super D
Great Northern Quivers only!

All the best!
Todd Z

Jegs.mich

There's a bunch of good heads out there. I haven't tried them all but will always be partial to an old fashioned zwickey. Here's a picture of the tree my deer was standing in front of.
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Michael Guran

Nice Jed—is that a 2 blade or 4 blade?

Jegs.mich

That's a two blade, but I use both. I like the way they sharpen up and fly.
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Hunter74

Thanks again for all the help gang!

So currently my decision is to try out the Razor heads for a wider single bevel and I'm also going to pick up some VPA 3 blade heads to experiment with.

Warchild

Shocked that anyone has broken an Abowyer head. I love them, have killed a few deer with them and they seem absolutely bulletproof. They are made of pretty high quality steel and sharpen up nicely. I shot this buck through the shoulder with a 250 grain Wapiti screw in. Split the scapula and penetrated 12" with 600 grains behind it pushed by a 55# Stalker recurve at 16 yards. Great blood trail too. These are very high quality heads and are a bit pricey but not the highest out there.

JamesD

Nice work with that Abowyer!
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Wilderlife

With the exception of a rabbit with a blunt and a pig with a Tusker Aztec, all animals I've killed with compounds and trad bows have been with Outback broadheads from Australia - both the Supreme and Stealth models. Very affordable and easy to sharpen. I believe they are currently not producing but they're working on starting back up again soon.

Onehair

Grizzles 30+ years.  I have shot a couple others but always go back.

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