Simmons Broadheads true weight

Skates 2 · August 18, 2022, 08:31:16 PM

Yeah, I'm guilty of being defensive. I've seen the stuff that gone on here over the years. I'll work on not piling on.

Wudstix · August 18, 2022, 10:53:49 PM

Just got 6 Big Jim/VPA 250 grain 1 1/2" heads, four are within 1 grain, two ae 268 and 271, but probably have glue in the Ferrell.

woodchucker · August 19, 2022, 01:50:01 PM

I've never been much for tuning/ tinkering...

I figure if I do everything right, the bow and arrow, will do it's job....

cacciatore · August 19, 2022, 02:08:39 PM

Jeeezzz those Battle axles are killers. I used also the Big Games and the Tree Shark glue on with a 100 adapter they come back at 250 after the sharpening and pretty consistent in weight. I use big broadheads for Russian boars in the winter. Most of my bows are in the 55-60# range and 600 plus grains arrows

Jim Jackson · August 19, 2022, 02:57:37 PM

Tarz, why didn't you use the 3 Rivers Bare bow shafts on the hog?

Just curious.

GCook · August 19, 2022, 09:21:50 PM

Quote from: woodchucker on August 19, 2022, 01:50:01 PM
I've never been much for tuning/ tinkering...

I figure if I do everything right, the bow and arrow, will do it's job....

I just shot my new PT LB limbs with the woods I had made for it. However when I ordered the woods I ordered them for a little higher weight but changed my mind on the bow weight as the build came up. I noticed them wagging a bit on the way down range and know they are a bit stiff. Yeah, the fletching straightened them out . But I can't see ever hunting with a shaft that isn't well tuned. Hands down the biggest factor in penetration is a straight flying arrow. So I'll try some heavier points until I get it right or the only place they'll ever get shot it in the yard. I'm not hunting and taking a game shot with an arrow I am not willing to tinker with and make it right. However on wood arrows I'm still learning.

glenbo · August 20, 2022, 08:25:54 AM

I have 6 Simmons safari 205 gr. After sharpening once they range from 185 to 193 grains. This will be the first time hunting with them so I can't comment on performance.

NinjaVanish · August 20, 2022, 08:35:08 AM

Quote from: glenbo on August 20, 2022, 08:25:54 AM
I have 6 Simmons safari 205 gr. After sharpening once they range from 185 to 193 grains. This will be the first time hunting with them so I can't comment on performance.

Dang! You either got some lighter heads or used a belt sander I guess?? What did they weigh before sharpening?

glenbo · August 20, 2022, 09:16:44 AM

I didn't weigh them before sharpening. I used a file to establish the initial edge and then finished them with a diamond stick.

Stringwacker · August 20, 2022, 09:27:48 AM

I have 4 Treesharks that has an advertised weight of 165...that come in at 155 to 157. Very new heads with one sharpening. I also got what I believe to be three 165 grains Timbersharks (got them thrown in on a trade so that's why I'm not a 100% sure) that all hit 173 grains.

So if I'm right about the Timbershark identification, the Treesharks come in a little light and the Timbersharks come in a little heavy.

Tedd · August 20, 2022, 09:53:57 AM

That Centaur head with the single bevel looked really good. I never got to hunt with it. I shot them all summer one yr. I lost one in foam target and ruined one on a miss. I think the 3rd one is still around somewhere. I misplaced a lot of stuff when I moved. I can't recall the width of the Centaur? 2" I think. Being conservative the penetration in most mediums was at least equal to and most likley better than standard width Zwickeys.
I would buy 2 packs of them right now if they went back into production.

Terry Green · August 20, 2022, 09:56:00 AM

Quote from: Jim Jackson on August 19, 2022, 02:57:37 PM
Tarz, why didn't you use the 3 Rivers Bare bow shafts on the hog?

Just curious.

The were equipped with lighted nocks and I was night hunting.

varmint101 · August 20, 2022, 10:09:01 AM

Is Jim even making those heads any more? Last time I checked I didn't see the centaurs listed. I wanted to try the short mag.

Ninja, as I mentioned my buddy has half a dozen 175 swamp sharks and all 6 weigh between 182-184 grains. Dave made the tiger sharks 165 due to the fact they were indeed coming in under weight.

Terry Green · August 20, 2022, 10:11:29 AM

Varmint, he said he would let me know when he made some more.... I'll be talking to him soon and will ask as you are not the only one asking a about them.

Mint · November 08, 2022, 02:10:05 PM

I experienced the same with the simmons broadheads. The ones that were suppose to ne 165grs came in as 158grs and the ones that were suppose to be 175gs came in at 185gs. I want 210grs up front including the insert so using a 50gr brass insert with the 158gr heads works great. With the 185gs I'm 15 grains light. I tried them last year and i saw just a little something with the flight. Really messed with my head when i was hunting and who needs that. This year i'm going to use the gold tip weights to booast it up 15grs for my mental health. lol

As far as not being a tough head maybe they changed the versions because the new heads are tough as nails.

Kelly · November 08, 2022, 04:55:50 PM

Mint, if you can tell a difference in flight from 15 grains you are a much better shot than I ever was/will be after 60 years at this game. More power to you.

Many times, when I practice will have arrows of 50-75 grains or more differences. If I do my part, they all go to the same place. Then again, the distances I shoot at are under 20yards and I would need a scale to tell you which is heavier than the other, even tho the arrows don't look the same. And that will include mostly wood but sometimes carbon and a couple sizes of aluminum.

Same thing goes with spine-all these arrows I shoot are not the same 5# spine group-they may be 10-20# differences in spine. But I will say they are all stiffer than my bow weight at least.