Judo vs blunt?

huntingcop · October 19, 2021, 02:28:34 PM

Once again I'm new to trad hunting so I have alot of questions. I wondered what the opinion was or what is better a judo point or a small game blunt? I am possibly considering buying both and trying each one.

Badlands · October 19, 2021, 02:33:47 PM

For practice, it's Judo, hands down. you will loose far less of these than any blunt.
For small game hunting, it depends. I usually use old broadheads but have a variety of blunts.
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TIM B · October 19, 2021, 03:01:35 PM

Badlands pretty much covered it above.
90% of my practice is w judos.
Tim B

V I Archer · October 19, 2021, 03:08:59 PM

Im a big fan of the Ace Hex Head. a great small game and stumping head in a wide variety of weights

rhampton · October 19, 2021, 03:38:47 PM

Having used Judo points for decades, I can say that in the eastern hardwoods they work better than any other head for stump shooting or shooting in the grass. The wires absorb energy and keep the arrow from sliding under the grass and reduce skipping. They are a very effective small game head for rabbit and squirrel sized animals. They are very durable and if you don't shoot them into rocks, they will last a very long time and justify their expense in reduction of lost arrows.

woodchucker · October 19, 2021, 04:03:37 PM

Years ago, EVERYTHING got a broadhead....

Now that my old Bear Razorhead collection has dwindled to a couple dozen, I always have a Judo in my quiver.

They're just about perfect for stumps and small game, with only one exception....
Rabbits in REALLY THICK briars!!! Many times the wires catch the brush and the arrow doesn't reach the bunny.

electricstart · October 19, 2021, 05:39:23 PM

I use blunt for stump shooting.

hawkeye n pa · October 19, 2021, 06:01:44 PM

75 percent of the time my roving / stump arrows will have a Ace hex blunt on them. Judo's on the rest. At one time all I used was Judo's. Good luck and enjoy your endeavor!

Terry Lightle · October 19, 2021, 06:37:11 PM

I use Judos to stump shoot which is how I practice and blunts or Ace Hexheads to small game hunt

McDave · October 19, 2021, 07:16:17 PM

I carry both when I am roving. If it is a soft target in the grass, I use the judo. If it is a hard target in a more open area, I use the rubber blunt to protect the arrow from impact with a rock or hard stump.

DNewer · October 20, 2021, 08:32:51 AM

Depends on what your shooting. Ace hex heads are awesome except for rabbits (in my experience rabbits will pull off the arrow too easy and escape if your not quick after the shot. Judos are hell on rabbits unless your in heavy brush. PDP game nabbere are my all time favorite for a dual purpose small game/tumping arrow. They typically stay in the animal and slide through brush well. Are relatively inexpensive and come in a variety of weights both glue in and screw in.

Terry Green · October 20, 2021, 11:02:15 AM

Judos for stumping, all else gets broadheads. I modify my broadheads for small game.

Sam Spade · October 22, 2021, 10:52:51 AM

Judos.

Tarz, what type of modifications?

Terry Green · October 22, 2021, 12:00:04 PM

OK, this pic got lots of questions back in the day as it was posted on a few threads, most comments came from the Bunny Hunt on the Bowhunters of Tradgang DVD as there was footage of this bow quiver and back quiver combo in the DVD and it was on the back cover of the DVD case, and the thread from Texas Sweat as well.

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The reason for both the quivers is something I started long ago on combo hunts. That being, bunny's plus hogs and Javies were on the list. The bow quiver had the 'real' broadheads, and the back quiver had the modified broadheads. We would sneak along a road and would be on the lookout for any of the 3 species. We had lots of shots at bunnys so the back quiver was utilized a lot. However, when a javie appeared, or a hog appeared or squealed, I simply dropped the back quiver on the side of the road, still visible obviously, and proceeded after the the opportunity at hand.

The heads in the back quivers were modified Wensel Woodsmen. Obviously I pyramided the tip a bit , and I round them off considerably for tree shooting squirrels in the trees, but also I ground off the back corners of the head so they would come out of the back quiver smoothly. Unlike blunts, this head would pin the bunny to the ground, prickly pears, or mesquite trunks. And also, if not pinned, the ground contact would cause the arrow to stay somewhat halfway in the bunny and prevent them from running off as it was too thick for them to get away with a broadside arrow sticking out of both sides.

I have seen many of blunts bounce off bunnys and squirrels allowing the to run and escape or die where you can't find them. Here is a pic of my small game head of choice....

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Russell Southerland · October 22, 2021, 06:59:24 PM

Ah yes, the DVD. I love the opening line in the Texas Bunny Hunt chapter.

"As you can see, sometimes shooting the rabbit is the easy part"

And then that was backed up by the footage that followed that quote.

Jim Jackson · October 23, 2021, 09:44:12 AM

Me too! Judos stumping n Bheads hunting.

trad_bowhunter1965 · October 23, 2021, 11:48:50 AM

Quote from: Terry Green on October 22, 2021, 12:00:04 PM
OK, this pic got lots of questions back in the day as it was posted on a few threads, most comments came from the Bunny Hunt on the Bowhunters of Tradgang DVD as there was footage of this bow quiver and back quiver combo in the DVD and it was on the back cover of the DVD case, and the thread from Texas Sweat as well.

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The reason for both the quivers is something I started long ago on combo hunts. That being, bunny's plus hogs and Javies were on the list. The bow quiver had the 'real' broadheads, and the back quiver had the modified broadheads. We would sneak along a road and would be on the lookout for any of the 3 species. We had lots of shots at bunnys so the back quiver was utilized a lot. However, when a javie appeared, or a hog appeared or squealed, I simply dropped the back quiver on the side of the road, still visible obviously, and proceeded after the the opportunity at hand.

The heads in the back quivers were modified Wensel Woodsmen. Obviously I pyramided the tip a bit , and I round them off considerably for tree shooting squirrels in the trees, but also I ground off the back corners of the head so they would come out of the back quiver smoothly. Unlike blunts, this head would pin the bunny to the ground, prickly pears, or mesquite trunks. And also, if not pinned, the ground contact would cause the arrow to stay somewhat halfway in the bunny and prevent them from running off as it was too thick for them to get away with a broadside arrow sticking out of both sides.

I have seen many of blunts bounce off bunnys and squirrels allowing the to run and escape or die where you can't find them. Here is a pic of my small game head of choice....

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I love that DVD and I hunt with two quivers one on my bow full of Grizzly broadheads and a side quiver full of judos blunts and broadheads. when the hunt slow down it stump and small game shooting time . Mr. Terry I really like that back quiver.

Terry Green · October 23, 2021, 07:42:51 PM

Thanks Sir! That's bear tracks on an American Leathers quiver. I got it in 2005.

Sam Spade · October 25, 2021, 09:59:06 AM

Thanks T.

huntingcop · October 25, 2021, 05:58:29 PM

Thanks! I have really enjoyed this thread and it was been very helpful