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Setting a clicker

Started by Tdaniels, December 13, 2020, 09:18:42 AM

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Tdaniels

 I'm new to clickers , but would like to try one on a 58" whistler . My question is , where do you want it to click? At the very end of expansion or sooner ? Thanks for the previous help too !

knobby

It takes a little tinkering to get it just right but ultimately you want it to click at full expansion. It's a very fine line but worth the effort to get it right.

McDave

As Knobby stated, clickers were designed to be used as a trigger for the shot: when you reach full expansion, the clicker goes off and you automatically release the shot without thinking about it.  This is how a person who uses a dynamic release would use a clicker.

However, clickers are also useful as a draw check: to ensure that you have reached full draw, and don't creep.  If you creep, the clicker will click again on the way down.  This is most useful for those who use a dead release, where there is no backward movement of the arrow at the point of release.  The shooter draws the bow and expands until the clicker clicks.  After the clicker clicks, the shooter locks off and holds without losing back tension until the shot is released via a subconscious release or some kind of external non-anticipatory psychotrigger.
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Shug

Quote from: Tdaniels on December 13, 2020, 09:18:42 AM
I'm new to clickers , but would like to try one on a 58" whistler . My question is , where do you want it to click? At the very end of expansion or sooner ? Thanks for the previous help too !

When set up and used correctly the clicker  (clickety click / cricket )should go off a little bit after full anchor

Using one correctly takes lots of work. The biggest problem I see guys making is

Expanding / motoring / pulling ( how ever you want to describe it) to the click.

The correct way is to (pull ) to your conclusion of your shot. The clicker should be set to go off  just a tad past your anchor.


Just because it's what I use as a conclusion I'll describe it here as I do it.
My conclusion is touching my shoulder. There are several different conclusions find what you like best.

So for my shot I come to full draw every aspect of my shot from stance to grip to anchor, head placement,  motor and conclusion are done in graining them to muscle memory on a blank bale from 5 feet.

Literally thousands of shots later the entire shot sequence happens with no thought to anything but the spot you want to hit.

In my opinion aiming isn't something you do at full draw it's something that happens for a micro second in time,when your brain tells your body everything is perfect and your body goes through the act of expansion/ pulling with no thought.

I've been shooting clickers for 30 years. I was fortunate to have worked for one of the greatest archery minds ever Len Cardinale .

As for setting the clicker a couple other tips one is you can micro adjust the location of the click by sliding the string up or down in your bowstring and find the location within an 8 th of an inch that feels best for you. Another is go on Amazon and order a couple of dog training clickers ( pic enclosed)

Replace the clickety click tab... you'll need to drill a little bigger hole in the existing one to make it fit but  it's well worth the effort.

I would normally go through 3/4 clickers a year with this new type it's lasted me two years... in fact pm me and I'll send you one. I order way too many.. lol

Lastly don't be afraid to cover it with moleskin. I've gotten mine to where I feel the click in my fingers more than hear it.


Sorry for rambling on...
 



Shug


Brokefarmer

Shug how are you attaching the clicker to the bowstring? I've replaced the chain and string that come with the clicker to d braid material( d loop cord ). I split my bowstring and place clicker cord through it. Should I tie a knot on the end of the clicker cord to hold it in place? Thanks

SS Snuffer

I just put a clicker on a few days ago and am having troubles also. One problem i'm having is I can hardly hear it
(Crick-it brand) anyone know a way to make it louder, I am a little hard of hearing or so I have been told many times a day by Mrs. Also after a few shots it seems I have to pull farther and I'm sure nothing is moving. If I shorten the string the 1st time I pick up the bow I trigger the click before I settle into my for my shot. Any thoughts?
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Brokefarmer

SS I have the same issues sometimes. Seems first shot goes off quick. Second, third, fourth shots are good and then i struggle to make it pop. I assume it's fatigue. If I rest or only shoot one arrow at a time and then retrieve it I'm much more consistent.

Shug

Quote from: Brokefarmer on February 12, 2021, 08:31:55 AM
Shug how are you attaching the clicker to the bowstring? I've replaced the chain and string that come with the clicker to d braid material( d loop cord ). I split my bowstring and place clicker cord through it. Should I tie a knot on the end of the clicker cord to hold it in place? Thanks

I also split the string .. I don't tie it in a knot any more  I get it set as close as possible to perfect then burn the tag end as it burns close to the bowstring I pat it out and flatten it against the string. It hardens and won't slip back through.

When I make my final micro adjustment I just serve it in the exact location to avoid any sliding.

Shug

Quote from: SS Snuffer on February 12, 2021, 09:36:11 AM
I just put a clicker on a few days ago and am having troubles also. One problem i'm having is I can hardly hear it
(Crick-it brand) anyone know a way to make it louder, I am a little hard of hearing or so I have been told many times a day by Mrs. Also after a few shots it seems I have to pull farther and I'm sure nothing is moving. If I shorten the string the 1st time I pick up the bow I trigger the click before I settle into my for my shot. Any thoughts?

Post your email and I'll send pics of the new ones I use as I said previously they last ridiculously long compared to the cricket metal tabs. They are noisier but I silence them down with mole skin.

Brokefarmer

Thanks shugs! gdc1433@gmail.com for a pic of the newer models.

jess stuart

Thanks Shugs.  Could I get the link too please.
jess.stuart@hotmail.com

Lowrider

Torn up my share could I get the link. philipacox@bellsouth.net Thanks

K2

Can you send me the link at kenkluza@gmail.com.  Thanks.  Ken

Smallwood



Post your email and I'll send pics of the new ones I use as I said previously they last ridiculously long compared to the cricket metal tabs. They are noisier but I silence them down with mole skin.
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smallwood1972@gmail.com

Mark Zagrzebski

Would be interested in the link also, mdzag@live.com

Thanks,
Mark

Flingblade

#16
Shug,
I would be interested in the link and pics as well please. 
Are you using the body of the clicker and just replacing the metal blade with the plastic one from the dog clicker?  I have a new Black Widow on order and need to get a clicker on the way for when it arrives.
Thanks,
Gary

bobm

Shug,
I would appreciate the link and pic also. vtbound@verizon.net

Bob

Flingblade

Tdaniels, 
The best instructor on using a clicker or any other type of shot trigger is Joel Turner.  He used to be on here as clickerman but I haven't seen him post in awhile.  I took a seminar from him back in 2012.  He still does in person seminars but also offers on-line courses and has a book available.  He is an excellent teacher.  You can find all that at his website www.shotiq.com. 

YosemiteSam

I don't know how most people use them.  But I use them the way I see olympic shooters use them.  Draw, hold at anchor, adjust sight picture as needed, expand until you hear the click & relax the string hand to let the arrow fly.

I think it's easy to get caught up in thinking about what is the right vs wrong way to use a tool instead of ways that work or don't work.  Any system will work if you work it.
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