Samick Sage, budget decent arrow advice needed.

[Ryan Rothhaar]

A coworker's son just got a Sage and hes asking me to help setup.  50lbs 62 inch, assume he's getting about 50 lbs. Beginning archer, but I'm sure hed be looking to hunt with it down the road...I know 50lbs might challenge him and all that, but that ship sailed. What would be a good budget carbon arrow that should get him close with a 125-150 gr head?  Budget is important here.  Where you setting brace height on 'em for a start?  I can get them the rest of the way there...

Thanks!

R

[JohnV]

Big Jim frequently has blemished Gold Tip shafts for a real good price.

[Skwerl58]

The Gold Tip Traditional and Gold Tip Nugent is what I shoot. I have a Samick Journey and use 400 spine with a 100 gn insert and 125 gn broadhead. I think I have a 8.25" brace height but I also have a 31" draw length.

[M60gunner]

3Rivers has some Beeman hunters on sale.

[Tactical Draftsman]

I have a 50# Sage and set it up at 7-7/8" BH. I draw 28". Not sure if aluminum is an option but I shoot the 2016 Easton Tributes from 3R, full length with 145 grain tips. It is a good shooter.

[TSHOOTER]

Big Jim dark timber .500.  6 for $30
Lancaster has xx75 2016 alum for $3.60 each
Lancaster has Goldtip warrior or hunters in .500 spine for $5-5.75 per shaft.

[J. Cook]

Those .500 spine Beamans on 3 Rivers' site would be hard to beat.

[Ryan Rothhaar]

Thanks, guys, I passed along info for the tribute 2016s and sale bemans at 3 Riv.  They aren't set up to build arrows of course, and need readily available fletched options.  I'm going to help them get going and cut/glue inserts and set up the bow, teach them how to do all that, but I cant get into arrow building...enough of that for myself 

Thanks!

R

[David Mitchell]

I would second Big Jim's Dark Timber shafts.  As good as any I have had and very reasonable price.

[Petrichor]

Third dark timber.

[YosemiteSam]

I have a Sage 50# and pull right around 28" or a tad less.  My favorite arrow for this setup is GT traditional 340, full 32" long, 100 gr brass insert & 200 gr head.  Gap at 20 yards is only about 10".  So putting the tip of the arrow just under the belly of a deer puts me right in the money out to about 25 yards.  Arrow weighs about 650 grains so it has plenty of punch.

I've shot 175 grain heads without any noticeable difference on field tips or broadheads.

If he'd rather go a little lighter & shorter, I've also run GT Trad 400, 29" long with 100 grain brass inserts & 200 grain heads.  Much flatter trajectory at about 550 grains or so.  But the gap is much bigger -- closer to 20-24" for me.

Just for kicks the other day, I ran some full length GT Trad 400s through on my 45# limbs (50 grain insert & 125 gr heads) and that worked pretty well, too.  I bought these for a different bow but that one broke.  So this was just for fun.  The trajectory was very flat at only about 450 grains total weight but the gap was more in the 12" range -- very manageable combo.

The Sage is very forgiving for me.  I can shoot just about any spine arrow with 30#, 45# or 50# limbs and it still hits where I'm aiming (assuming it's fletched).  Broadheads make spine much more critical but just with field points & fletched shafts, it's hard to mess up.

[Possum2546]

The Cabela stalker extremes are a decent arrow for the price. Knock off of the Beeman ics bowhunters.

I have killed several deer with them out of a my old 48@28 bow, standard inserts and 125 grain broadhead (stingers and thunderheads)

[Stump73]

4th for the Dark Timber

[Ryan Rothhaar]

Thanks guys, I think I got em lined out ok.  I use Big Jim shafts myself, but this guy isn't set up to build arrows.

Thanks!

R

[Stump73]

Bigjim can fletch them and cut to length also