Small 3-blades and 40# for deer?

[Terry Green]

Why is 9-10 grains per pound draw weight ok on heavier bow but not on light ones?

Kelly,... the 10 grains per pound pertains to the bow and arrow and protection of bow long term and is a general guidline for said combo.... not hunting/game/head options.

[Wudstix]

Friend;
Based on your PM a fairly quick locomotive would be the best of both worlds.  A heavy object in motion is harder to stop.  Using .37 slug Ft/sec as acceptable thin skinned game figure.  Momentum numbers approaching .50+ would surely be acceptable.  I have never one to worry about the lower end of the spectrum.

[Terry Green]

Great post Scott.   Momentum...... yes. Much more than KE.!!! Preach it brother!

[Kelly]

Why is 9-10 grains per pound draw weight ok on heavier bow but not on light ones?

Kelly,... the 10 grains per pound pertains to the bow and arrow and protection of bow long term and is a general guidline for said combo.... not hunting/game/head options.

This will be my 59th year bowhunting and way back when(early to mid 1960's) I first heard about this 10 grains per pound arrow weight it was all about hunting and penetration. It had nothing to do with bow safety. Back then the majority of bow hunters used 40-45# bows and quite frankly most never even cared about arrow weight. Very few made their own arrows, went to the local mom and pop archery shop in their house and purchased matched arrows, 6 with field points and 6 with their favorite broadhead. There were many types of two, three and four blade broadheads and all these combos killed lots of game.

[Friend]

Don't wish to derail the subject matter of this thread so this will be my last comment.

Many bowyers in the past have voided the warranty for bows that shot arrows less than 9 gpp.

[Eric Krewson]

I have a friend who shoots Simmons Shark two blade broadheads after switching from Woodsmans, the sharks cut an unreal wound channel and have two blade penetration to boot.

[Ryan Rothhaar]

If I was shooting low 40's I'd use at least a reasonably efficient bow, get a good shooting carbon arrow set up with narrowed down Snuffers (I'd target 1-1 1/4 inch diameter), and go deer hunting.  Something like a woodsman would be similar.  For deer I wouldn't worry too much about arrow weight as long as it's reasonable.  I know of plenty whitetails killed with this type setup.

Bow hunting was around long before "FOC" became a buzzword (or religion??).



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[smokin joe]

That's an interesting point of view, Ryan. It is exactly what I have done. I shoot 45 pounds because I have had both shoulder joints replaced. My bow is a souped up Centaur. I shoot carbons. My three-blade heads are 1.25 diameter (125 gr Snuffers). And my hunting arrows fly like laser beams.

[the rifleman]

I use 40# bows at my shortish draw length of 26 1/2".  Ive taken a bunch of our big whitetails with everything from a little less than 10 gpp to @14 gpp.  Ive used mostly 2 blades.  My arrows are well tuned and my broadheads are very sharp.  400 grains is not too light for our big corn fed whitetails.

[Terry Green]

Kelly, lighter bows and lighter arrows are more efficient.... got it....

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Here is my Granddad's arrow, John Everett Green,  care to guess the weight bought from a mom n pop store in the 70s for his Browning Nomad????

Somehow the original poster mentioned 40#s which seems to no longer be the discussion.   Having coffee with Scott 

[F. Dobbs]

Rifleman do you have any documentation of said kills?  I'm getting older and need to drop down soon but don't want to resort to gin powder. Please provide pics Thank you.

[Alexander Traditional]

I knew VPA had been getting lighter and lighter heads. I went to their website,and they are showing a 100 grain head.

Above was to answer your question,but I used a bow that missed weight to kill my first two animals that was 45 at my draw with a simmons head. That was a good combo,it was a lot heavier than 100 grains though.

[swampbow2]

  I prefer to use a heavier bow but a series of injuries had me shooting 45lbs , 43 at my draw, with 440gr total weight arrows. Wensel heads gave me pass throughs on 3 of 4 deer I shot with them. The non pass through was on a buck quartering away and I pulled the shot and went through one ham and into the other. I did recover him.

[Wudstix]

Gotta love good sharp 3 blade heads.

[SlowBowinMO]

That set up would probably be better off with a larger two blade head, which is a nice compromise.  Something like a Zwickey Delta.

[the rifleman]

Madre what exactly are you trying to say?  Check out the 40# and 45# threads i think i posted some pics there. 

[the rifleman]

Arrow in this pic was just a bit under 400 grs. 5/16 cedar arrow.  Madre, you can search through threads if you need more " documentation".

[Sky-chief]

Thanks for sharing rifleman.

[the rifleman]

You're welcome Sky-chief.  Be confident in your set up.  It will work well in the whitetail woods.  Good luck this season.

[Kelly]

is this the same Kelly Peterson that wounded nearly 20 elk non recovered????

Where did you see this, Skates?

Total Fake News since I've only shot at three elk and killed all three, each with a single arrow.